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  • #24686

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    I read the book mentioned in the article (Daisy it was in one of your lists, I believe). The book certainly explains why the northerners think they have all the answers and everybody else is stupid. Read the book, it answers a lot of questions.

  • #24685

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    I wish I was younger! I’m 69 and with a number of ailments my body is wearing out. I know how to shoot, but very little in the last few years. I know how to sharpen an axe and other tools with a file. Saw teeth, not so much. I have cut down trees and de-limbed with both axe and chainsaw. cut for firewood with a chainsaw and split firewood with both axe and sledge hammer with wedges. A long time ago. I never tried to teach that stuff to my only child, a daughter. My grandson has ADHD and I was afraid to try to teach him how to handle a gun, axe or chainsaw.

    I watched when my grandfather de nutted some young bulls (cattle). I have done some branding too. Long ago.

    I’ve never heard of a faller certificate but that makes sense. I’ll try to find a book on that.

    One of my purposes in building my large collection of books and PDFs is so my family and others will have resources to learn from if they ever need to know. Now I would like to add some videos. All of the things I listed above are for my family and any others that may join them in surviving.

    @namelus Thanks for the videos, I’ll check them out.

    I had already concluded that there are some things you just can’t learn from a book and if you want to get that kind of stuff done you must have experienced personnel. I’ll just have to add serious machine tool work to the team tasks of restarting an electrical generating station, restarting an oil refinery and most of the medical profession. All I can do is compile a library, but I have nobody to share it with. Without all these skills and knowledge all in one place plus food providers and a functioning militia and the proper leadership I’m afraid its back to the middle ages if something serious, like a grid down, happens.

    @tolik  Point taken.

    @daisy  I have a couple of his nonfiction books and they are good. Haven’t tried his fiction. Thanks for the channel, I’ll check it out.

     

  • #24676

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    @namelus

    Your right, I don’t want to watch 1000 hours of prepper videos. That why I asked for GOOD videos.

    I think a video would be most useful for demonstrating some technique that pictures or diagrams in a book don’t really demonstrate well enough.

    1.I’ve had some first aid classes so I remember the hands on well enough to do with the book. However, I would like a video on suturing up a wound and whatever might be related to that.

    2. With no power a slide rule could be useful for some things. I’d like video(s) on slide rules. I do have some books containing logarithm tables.

    3. Videos on all aspects of handling guns, shooting, disassembly, cleaning, reassembly, gun safety. Preferably videos of the specific guns that I have.

    4. tying knots, those diagrams just don’t do it for me!

    5. basic self-defense.

    6. both types of canning. I helped my mom some but that was a really a long time ago.

    7. Everything about steam engines, steam locomotives, etc.

    8. steam and water wheel powered electrical generators, construction, operations, troubleshooting and repair.

    9, operating metal working machine tools. Most likely these would have to be machine specific. For this 1000 hours might not be enough. Unfortunately, I don’t have any machine tools. I have the Gingery set of books on making your own machine tools, which frankly I haven’t read much of, but I understand most of those are about working with aluminum. I want to work with steel or maybe iron.

    10. The proper use of a file in sharpening an axe, shovel, hoe, etc. Sharpening and setting saw teeth would be essential. The proper use of an axe in felling trees without hurting yourself.

    11. Operating a spinning wheel and a loom for weaving. These would probably have to be machine specific too.

    That’s all I can think of right now. No doubt there is much more.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by  anon 411.
  • #24481

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    My perspective is different. My health is not all that good nor is my physical conditioning. I just did 4 months of physical therapy to improve my walking. The plan was to move on to a gym for more improvement. But my heart decided to act up again, so that is on hold until the heart settles down. So, walking through the wasteland hunting for a functioning community to take me and my library in is a non-starter for me.

    I’m a collector by nature and my last job was in software development. So I have collected tens of thousands of books in PDF. Its free and easy to do, just takes some time and money for storage devices. Ok, computers, tablets, etc. won’t last 2 or 3 generations, unless you plan for that and implementing such a plan, stockpiling Panasonic Toughbooks, won’t be cheep.

    What I would like to do is found or join a group that sees that the library must be core to their future existence. They don’t want to live in a medieval society without electricity (at least on a small scale). I also try to practice a grayman lifestyle. I don’t really want to find a rich man patron as most such people see employees as expendable and replaceable. I don’t see anyway to start or find such a group without going public in some fashion. But traveling would be difficult for me so I don’t see that as much of an option. I suppose I could write a book, but I’ve been told that a book with a lot of links is a non-starter. Maybe a fiction book with the main character doing what I would like to do. Won’t be easy to write. Would cut into my collecting time.

    Suggestions?

  • #24456

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    The point has been made here that after 2 or 3 generations knowledge will be lost. Well, it is our responsibility and that of our children to not let that happen! That plan has to be made, NOW before the civilization ending disaster (what ever it is) happens. I discussed this somewhat here: https://www.theorganicprepper.com/after-the-end-of-the-world-restarting-civilization/

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by  anon 411.
  • #24335

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    Then I guess we all should start demanding the water treatment plants start using prepper grade water filters on all the water they put out.

    Does this mean I’m going to have to buy another prepper grade water filter for my home drinking and cooking water?

    What about washing my hands and taking a shower? Is that safe using tap water anymore?

    Your body absorbs some water when you take a shower. Did you know that? Try this, after you undress completely before you get in the shower, weigh yourself. Now after you get out of the shower and thoroughly dry off, weigh yourself again. You will probably weight 1 or 2 pounds more than you did when you got in the shower. I weight 2 pounds more. What about you? Is this safe?

  • #24269

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    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/grand-solar-minimum/

    I suspect this will be a very, very cold winter. If this is a new grand solar minimum it will be cold for decades. Could be cold enough to use enough electricity to collapse the grid. Talk about climate change!

  • #25099

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    I bought both volumes. I have read two articles and both discussed non-intuitive solutions to problems. Keepers.

  • #24687

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    Lol, love that T-shirt!

  • #24454

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    What we need to find and preserve is a list of the locations of all these required resources. Where are all the iron and coal (and what type of coal) mines and the clay you mentioned and so on. A list of all oil wells and known reserves of oil and the others. Surely our government has such lists. It seems likely that there may even be such lists published in a book every so often. Not sure how to start looking. Could start asking here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_School_of_Mines

    Certainly, one day survivors could work through all the existing steel, but there is a lot of steel out there now. In a couple of generations a great deal of it will have turned to rust. Don’t know, can rust be reworked into good steel?

    One easy to reach source of steel would be railroad rails. A group could gather hundreds or thousands of those and store them in rain proof barns. I would hate to salvage those rails before there is any hope of getting trains running again though. High on my list would be building or restoring a steam locomotive. The biggest problem with steam that I see is how to build a steam pressure gauge from scratch! The very earliest steam engines, before they made pressure gauges, had a tendency to blow up their boilers! Very near the top of the list of construction drawing to acquire is steam pressure gauges.

  • #24447

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    I would love to see a list of the books, articles, etc. you mentioned.

  • #24441

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    “what happens if they lose ability of higher language” Well, you have to have books to teach a person to read and math starting with arithmetic, and so on. Basically you need all the books to home school a kid on these hard but required to rebuild a civilization, subjects. What this really means you have to have enough people in your community (a survival group is too small) to allow for a school and experimenters, builders, etc.

    The store of knowledge (library) and skills must be the CORE of the community. The most important part of what the community is about. Yes, you got to grow food, and have warriors, etc, but protecting and passing on the knowledge must be the most important MISSION of the community!!!

  • #24445

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    My family used to be in the construction business. I still have the totally useless to me now hundreds of house plans my father and I drew on drafting paper. Got rid of the drafting tables but I still have the tools: scales, triangles, T-square, pencils and lead, erasers, compass, protractor, french curve, templates, etc. And the skill of mechanical drawing and drafting.

    I would help with drawing plans for these gadgets, if there was some way to coordinate the work.

    I fear that most of this kind of drawing will have to be reverse engineered.

    A pedal-powered METAL working lathe has got to be at the top of the list for machine tools. I know you said wood, but metalworking is very important too.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by  anon 411.
  • #24443

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    I agree 100%!!! See my comment to you (Mouse) above.

  • #24438

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    I’m unclear what you mean when you say “codify the knowledge”. Do you mean like start a list of important things needed (more than just skills). Like “how to purify water”, “how to spin thread using a spinning wheel AND detailed plans for building a spinning wheel”, same for making cloth, etc, etc?

    If this is correct then I would like to see (or help make) a list of these items.  Start with a list of the most important things (gadgets) needed. Start with the top 100 (or 200 or 300 or however many there might be). Then document knowledge sources for each. In the case of “how to purify water” I would start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_filter  print or save this page to a PDF, go to every important link on that page, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filtration and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_purification and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_water_purification and print or save to PDF all those pages. Then go to all the pages under “See Also” and save, then try to find every article or book under “References”. From this you can figure out the real world things needed and start searching for detail construction drawings (most difficult to find).

    I have spent much of this year finding these kinds of pages, building an outline thereof, and the books referenced there, but nothing on determining gadgets and the construction drawings of the gadgets – of the large subject of engineering.

     

     

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