“I thought you and RainMakers posts were non-relevant to the conversation.”
In a strict sense, I would agree with you. So you are saying the threat of action was predicated by simple thread drift? I do not think that is the totality of the situation.
“It added nothing. It was anti-productive.”
In my opinion, this is inaccurate. The most obvious inaccuracy is that I did explain stone boiling to Rain Maker. That was germane to his original subject matter. Preceding that I explained why the concept in the video was a poor idea. Doing so was to the point.
But you aren’t referring to all that I think. I think you are referring to the mildly caustic poking back and forth that followed, the mildly insulting attempts at humor. I think you feared that sort of thing could easily lead to far worse, and so you headed it off in your own way. I do understand why you did this, I simply do not agree with that tactic being employed in lieu of other forms of communication to solve the problem.
When I have been in charge of others, both in the military and in civilian life, I at times resorted to authoritarian methods of governance out of perceived necessity.. Afterwards I would try to talk to those involved to explain the why of it, in the hopes that they would take it to heart and learn enough to perform as was necessary without my supervision. There were times when I was thanked for making the effort, and the overall results were better than just yelling at people to do this, do that with no explanation, just threat of force.
As to the conversation in question here being “anti-productive”, I again disagree. I believe that anytime two people can come to understand one another through contending, short of all out war, a more productive relationship can result. People need to come to these things, these understandings of one another, on their own, through their own efforts, with little outside supervision, for it to be meaningful enough to become the basis for becoming friends, or just simply getting along without fighting. It takes time, and it isn’t perfect, just as people aren’t perfect, but it works better than authority figures hovering over everybody with club in hand, ready to strike down the transgressor for most anything. Like I said before, authoritarianism teaches only fear and resentment in most people, to obey only under threat of some level of violence, with little to no practice or understanding of how to perform without the authoritarian figure being present.
Remember when Moses took a vacation, and when he came back nearly everybody was going berserk, going total retard in his estimation. They were operating at the law and order level of moral development, and it all broke down into rampant egotism, and moral anarchy soon after the enforcing authority figure stepped out for a minute.
This is a little discussed, but critical aspect of prepping/survivalism that people really should contemplate, as it has very serious implications for the governance of any group, post shtf.
Given all that, the interplay of communication between me and Rain Maker was ultimately germane to what this forum is supposed to be about.
It’s just the way I see things Crow Bar, really pisses some people off that I see these connections, but I cannot do that much about the way I think given my life experiences and level of knowledge.