November 24, 2020 at 9:01 am #30989
November 24, 2020 at 11:15 am #30990
Too late for most.
A year ago would have been just about perfect.
But not even if I were in a bad place, I would hold fast and just hunker down. Better to be in a bad place than moving someplace worse. And that is a possibility, Selco will probably disagree with me, but a good part of that is perspective.
Here I know where I can gather food, what I can grow, which neighbors will turn a blind eye, etc. Moving right now makes you a refugee, unless you have a stack of cash to start over, new house and completely stock your larder to the roof for “x” amount of time.
November 24, 2020 at 12:21 pm #30993
I think if you had the money, or the bank pre-approval, it is still possible to find a home, or land and property to relocate to.
There is a horse farm on 150 acres down the road from me for sale. It is for sale by owner, so no Zillow listing.
As the article points out, what I find interesting is those relocating based off of political POV. That is going to increase the division in America. We will have two different societies based off, mostly but not all, political POV.
How will that change over all society?
November 24, 2020 at 2:45 pm #30996
No offense intended, but the author of this piece, Michael Snyder, grinds out content that is basically “survivalist junk food.”
He features info that is usually a month behind the curve, and seasons it with an ominous dose of anxiety inducing spin. Who didn’t already know that people want to move out of the states where quality of life has plummeted into the gutter? Who really cares about house coveting, and “Zillow Surfing?”
The hour is growing late to pull off a successful relocation, but it is theoretically, still possible. “Frying pan into the fire” scenarios are a real risk. There are many factors that must be considered beyond getting a good price on your next property. Snider doesn’t mention them.
YMMV, but I really think Mr Snider’s intent is to get people to take their eye off the ball.
November 24, 2020 at 4:18 pm #30997
None taken! No worries.
Meh, I think he is more on than a month behind.
Now may be he is pointing out some of the obvious? Okay. The exodus from bigger cities has been happening prior to COVID, mostly due to high COL.
But between COIVD and civil unrest, the trend has accelerated.
Interestingly enough, a very small home, with a detached garage, was only on the market for about two weeks. It sold. It is next to the horse farm with 150 acres.
November 24, 2020 at 6:35 pm #31000
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But can one really get away from it? Delay it maybe I dunno
November 26, 2020 at 10:29 am #31068
I think it depends on ones geophysical location.
During SHTF, or post-SHTF, not a lot of people are going to say, “Hey! I got a great idea! Lets go North where they average 20ft of snow a winter, and single digits are not uncommon!”
Especially if the snow plows are not running. Then no one is going anywhere without snowshoes or XC skis.
November 24, 2020 at 9:33 pm #31005
I think another part of the exodus is that people who were perfectly fine in apartments before don’t want to be cooped up with three kids doing “distance learning” while Mom and Dad both try to work from home. They at least want a backyard to shoo the kids outside during Round 2.
November 25, 2020 at 3:20 pm #31027
I work in town, we plan to sell our nice old Victorian house next year if the community members don’t burn us out first. Out on the barrens it helps if you are of north European stock and of a conservative bent, otherwise you may not find the neighborhood as welcoming as you might hope.
November 25, 2020 at 6:35 pm #31035
Not very welcoming, heh. They’re pretty reserved folks.it takes years to have them warm to you.
But imagine city apartment life in 2025. Remember the slums in the movie, “Brazil”? The city is putting up 100+ unit apartment buildings on every available block, you can hardly see the sky downtown. How many yuppies are there in this town clamoring for $2000/month apartments? The apartment building craze will be a disaster of epic proportions. The government will have to buy up all those foreclosed properties and fill them with Section 8 deadbeat hood rats that will destroy the city. Cabrini Green 2025.
- This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by BarrensHomey.
November 26, 2020 at 9:32 am #31067
People need to be careful , retaliation can be a real bit__ . Come out to find your car all messed up . your dog poisoned , other things ………….best advice to follow , throughout your life , is mind your own business .
November 26, 2020 at 1:21 pm #31083
Say you fo relocate and have good neighbours when things are good. What do you have to offer when things go bad? Money will be worthless and so will any precious metals. Yes you may have food but things will require you to eventually trade for services or items you don’t have ….. who will help a new person over a friend in those times?
Modern skills like coding will be worth near zero. Being a paper shuffling manager is useless. What do you offer community that makes you have value and worth defending?
November 27, 2020 at 8:34 am #31092
You have a point there Namelus.
Does not have to be a coder or that admin assistant. Could be anyone.
Too many focus on the tacticool or super survivalist skills.
What I would like to see is the prepper who can shoot, start a fire using steel and flint, bake bread from scratch, first aid, raise small, medium and large livestock, and grow gardens of decent size.
And that is just off the top of my head.
November 27, 2020 at 10:16 pm #31137
While building a house I’ve relearned a number of skills that are always in demand, chiefly the ability to hump around lumber and put it where somebody tells me to. Basic labor never goes out of style…
November 28, 2020 at 12:12 am #31147
There will be many animals of burden…… about 7 billion of them.. if you want to be more than scrabbling for a meal it’s better to have other useful skills. Plus most of us are older doing heavy labor at 70 against a 20 year old is sure road to starve or steal.
Skills looked over like basket weaving, tanning, pottery, and basic chemistry ect will be high value skills
December 1, 2020 at 12:51 pm #31254
We’re more or less in agreement; we all bring talents and experience to the table that would be of little use in SHTF conditions. How many HR administrators, regional sales managers or software engineers can a local MAG support? But if I can double as electrician, carpenter or small engine mechanic, my worth to my associates moves up on the group priority list. As for finding willing laborers, a lot of otherwise able bodied young folks have trouble putting in a full workday doing what needs to be done, and those nails don’t pound themselves.
- This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by BarrensHomey.
December 2, 2020 at 9:49 am #31269
I try to diversify as much as I can. From food production, to woodworking, marksmanship, medical etc.
Then I try to do a brutally objective assessment of myself once a year (around New Years) and see where I am lacking, and try to improve.
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