An Academic Wants to Drug Us Through the Water Supply

[DaisyKeymaster]

It’s for your own good, you know.

Shall We Add A Little Lithium To The Water Supply?

I’ve long maintained that the public water supply is a real vulnerability. Now, you may have a well and get your water there, but you still have to worry about the effects that stuff in the water has on other people. Nobody lives in a bubble.

Through the water supply, the public could:

***Be controlled via psychiatric drugs (made more malleable)
***Be poisoned via a terror attack
***Be made more aggressive through different types of drugs

Really, the sky is the limit.

This is pretty blatant, though. Someone actually wants to drug us all without our consent and he’s telling everybody.

The professor suggesting it wants to reduce suicide and murder rates by reducing people’s extreme feelings. The drug would somewhat numb people and while they wouldn’t get really sad, they also wouldn’t be able to feel really happy either.

Yuck. I’ll take the bad feelings so I can also have the good ones.

I recommend, if you’re on city water, that you filter the daylights out of it, and I’m not even sure that would remove drugs like this. Maybe source your water someplace besides the taps.

• This topic was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by  Daisy.

[HomesteadingMamaParticipant]

I think it is probably good form to filter home water whether it is city water or well water. Capturing rainwater and having some kind of back up system in place would be good. That said, a water contamination problem where filtering/boiling won’t help may be something that we have to just accept as outside our control unless we have the resources to do something extreme.

I try to keep the Serenity Prayer in mind as far as prepping goes.

God grant me the peace to accept the things I cannot change, prep for the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.

😉

[Anonymous]

We have an APEX water filtration system. It even filters out pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately not everyone can afford a filtration system like that.

[Crow BarKeymaster]

I have read so many people are on some kind of anti-depressants, it is showing up in the water supply and even in the brains of fish.

We are on a well.
I still put the water through a filter.

[Sam HainParticipant]

Antidepressants, so-called, are among the most dangerous of commonly prescribed drugs. Particularly the SSRI’s which can produce all sorts of bizarre impulsivity, homicidality, sucidality, mania, psychosis. But the most disturbing “side-effect” is a kind of severe affective flattening in which people report an inability to feel or care about anything, that they have nothing inside. And the drug-induced neurological changes that precipitate this state are often permanent. Lithium produces the same type of flattening and was used to treat people with extreme mood lability, what used to be called manic/depressive disorder, now commonly referred to as bipolar disorder. Beginning in the Mid-90’s some pharma companies decided to create a new psychiatric diagnostic realm, mood stabilization, and they rebranded their seizure medications as mood stabilizers. This started with Abbot and their seizure med depakote, and then everybody got into the act and that was the beginning of the “bipolar boom”. “Mood stabilizers” are now legion and everybody is “bipolar”, especially little kids who are force-fed amphetamines because they are bored in school and often squirm in their seats (“often squirms in seat” is actually listed as a clinical expression of ADHD). When the drugs wear off they “crash” and become irritable. Imagine that. So lithium has some clinical benefit for people with really severe mood lability but from my experience such cases are quite rare. And lihium has a very narrow therapeutic index; not quite enough and it does nothing, a little too much and people have to be rushed to the ER. It’s very toxic. The overall desired salient effect of Lithium, AD’s, mood stabilizers, etc., was clearly stated by the psychiatric establishment when the first psych med, thorazine, was developed in 1954: induction of psychic indifference. So there you have it. Welcome to the zombie apocalypse

[DaisyKeymaster]

Thanks for that information about the drugs, @sam Hain. It sounds like you may be in the medical field?

[Crow BarKeymaster]

What I find interesting is we are such an advanced society with nearly all our wants satisfied, all kinds of distractions, all kinds of attractions at our fingertips . . . why the heck are we, as a nation, so depressed?
What do we have to be depressed about?

[Anonymous]

@Crow_Bar, maybe it is because a lot of people down in their subconscious, realize that their life is empty, stuck in some unproductive job to earn money so they can buy useless toys that just distract them from a life they do not have.

[DaisyKeymaster]

There is an interesting study, the name of which I cannot remember. I always called it the Rat Utopia study for lack of a better name.

It started out that these rats were put in a habitat that was like rat heaven. There were other rats, there was plenty of food and water, and there were little rat exercise wheels. It should have been perfect. Initially, the rats were all really happy in this habitat.

Then, they began breeding like crazy (because life was easy, right?). Then they got fat. They got lazy. They stopped breeding and began fighting and displaying the rat version of antisocial behavior. Having everything perfect wasn’t enough.

According to the scientists, the rats’ lives had been made too easy. They didn’t have to work for anything and it was mentally unhealthy for them.

Perhaps it’s like that for humans, too. Maybe our lives are just so easy now that we aren’t doing the things we’re wired to do and that has caused a deep discontent.

[Crow BarKeymaster]

@DF,
I can agree with that assessment.

[Crow BarKeymaster]

@daisy,
I recall reading the same study.

Hard not to look around and not see it as a rat race.

[Sam HainParticipant]

Daisy, I think you have it about right. Our country is experiencing an epidemic of demoralization primarily because it has been de-industrialized. Factory jobs have all been outsourced to low wage/high repression countries like China that manufacture everything we need from shoes to shower curtains. Most Americans are not rocket scientists or deep thinkers, Americans make things and build things. And now they don’t, so people have no structure or meaning in their lives. Productive labor has been replaced with cradle-to-grave “security” from the welfare (plantation) state, a subsistence living that requires no effort. So people hang around, do drugs, play with their gadgets. Even very poor people have smart phones in this land of ours. So demoralization, not depression, which is a clinical condition characterized by avolition, loss of interest in anything, anhedonia, pessimism, thoughts of suicide, insomnia/hypersomnia, and so on, to an extent that is disabling. In my clinical work it is common to hear people say they are depressed but what they are really describing is situational unhappiness. And they buy into the drug company propaganda about depression being due to a “chemical imbalance”, a medical condition in other words. For which there is zero evidence. So my people, many of them, embrace their diagnoses, and identify with them, and that allows them to take no responsibility for their lives or decisions (usually very bad ones). Because their life problems have become medicalized. And then they go on antidepressants and their situation becomes chronic and they never get better or worse. But, being on drugs, they don’t care. Yes, I’ve been doing clinical work in the mental health field for a long time and I’m getting out of it mainly because the MH field has almost nothing to do with mental health. MH is simply a conduit to transfer public funds to Big Pharma. It’s all about money and power and as a vector for social control.

[Crow BarKeymaster]

I was deployed to Afghanistan for a year.
We are talking the lowest of low in terms of standard of living. The bottom of the third world countries. Ded last.

Yet, their sense of community, and family seemed better than what we have here in the US.
It was bizzar.

[Anonymous]

@Crow_Bar, if think the point is exactly in that term “standard of living.” I do not think anyone in Afghanistan knows what it means. They get up in the morning, got the water from the well, grow something in their garden, eat what sustain them, work together through the day and, if they are lucky and they don’t get caught in the crossfire and no one drop a 500lb bomb on their head, they go to bed and are happy to see another day.

Here, we are continuously bombarded (if you let them, that is) by messages designed to make people feel inferior if they do not own things. That set the standard of living, impossible to achieve for many. You’re nothing if you don’t live in a huge house, drive the biggest newest model of car, own the last iPhone and a 70″ screen in every room. No wonder people feel unhappy or depressed.

[Anonymous]

There is already an entire pharmacy floating in our water systems. Rivers, ground water, ocean waters, this stuff is already here. I think it’s a little too late to announce it.

When I get water from the tap to cook with there is a shiny film on top of the water, from the flipping tap! But our local water company says the water is just fine. Ironically I was out walking yesterday and it was raining, the water flowing into the drains was full of oil off the street and look just like the water coming out of my tap.

[Dan the Old GuyParticipant]

I think doping the water is a good reason to want government funded healthcare. In Europe, the government pays the citizens’ health care costs and guess what, they stopped putting fluoride in the water. Only 3% of water is Europe has fluoride. Why? Because the type of fluoride they use to fluoridate water is toxic and the governments in Europe can’t afford to pay for the bad health of the citizens.

Our government isn’t on the hook for our healthcare, so they do not care if we get poisoned by fluoride or lithium or whatever. No skin off their back.

[DaisyKeymaster]

@sam Hain – I’ve always thought that most of us were a little “funny.” And I don’t believe it always needs to be medicated. I think that there’s a baseline of normal for everybody and that those baselines are all different. If your brain works a little differently, it’s still your brain. You must learn to work with it. You must find the good parts about your hypomania or your ADHD or whatever and try to overcome the problems that come along with it. Not everything requires a medication. One of my kids was diagnosed with all sorts of things they wanted to medicate. I dug in my heels and refused. She ended up getting all sorts of scholarships and finished school early. She just had to learn to work with the brain she had.

This, of course, is not to say that there aren’t some people who require medication. I know that there definitely are people who cannot function in society without it.

You make a fantastic point that a great deal of the problems are not actually mental illnesses, but situational issues that could be changed and improved upon. But I guess there’s just no motivation for most people. It seems that it’s more celebrated to be a “victim of mental illness” than it is to overcome a bad situation and become successful.

[TolikParticipant]

Birth control in the water , might not be such a bad thing lol .

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