Brace Yourselves: A 163% Meat Tax Could Be Coming

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  • #5433

    Crow Bar
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  • #5449

    James Mitchner
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    More insanity coming out of the UN and globalists.  Ever read the UN’s Agenda 21?  Agenda 30?  There is a book titled “Behind the Green Mask”.  Every thinking American should read it.  They want us all to be forced to live in an urban environment in little cubicles, walk to work and to shop, and use only public transportation.  Its nothing but control!  Check out their “Wild Lands” project.  They don’t want us on the land.  Whenever you hear words like “sustainability”, or “green spaces” its right out of Agenda 21.

  • #5450

    namelus
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    Lol yeah well can’t tax what they don’t know about will make black market meat.

    As stated sin tax never works.

     

    Up here if they tried to get farmers to pay that on their own meat tax man would be taken by sasquatch. …..

     

    This is a push to get vat grown cells called meat, I but it won’t be subject to the taxes so the fast food places will be okay.

    It’s also a way to hide collapse of food production. Meat being most resource consuming.

     

     

     

  • #5452

    Anonymous

    Um… If they do tax it more, that just means we are going to have less money for a food budget because we HAVE to have beef. It’s the best source of heme iron for us when it comes to animal meat. If our beef budget doubles, well, I guess it will just double! We will still have to buy it. We are one of those people who actually have to eat beef. We can’t do without it and we can’t be vegetarians or vegans.

  • #5458

    Anonymous

    Part of it is that they want us to be weaker in the body so we can less challenge them physically. Lean meat provides proteins to build muscles and fat (animal fat and butterfat) to provide energy. I’m not trying to start an argument with vegans, as I know nothing about that. But I am reading a book about energy and early humans and meat and fat were very important to their subsistence diet in those days.

  • #5461

    Whirlibird
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    We haven’t bought beef in 6 years.

    Kinda hard to tax what ain’t being bought.

    Thanks to a poor elk season, the meat in the freezer cost us between $.75 and $1 a pound total.

    Between proper planning and picking up some fish next year, we still won’t buy red meat anytime soon.

    And you can make venison sausage and bacon, low fat even.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by  Whirlibird.
  • #5471

    Red Carnation
    Participant

    Time to support our local farmers if we are not yet already!

  • #5488

    Crow Bar
    Keymaster

    Black market bacon!  I love it!

  • #5493

    James Mitchner
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    The beef, pork, and poultry industry are so strong in the US that I doubt any “meat tax” would ever be implemented here.  The EU, OTOH, have gone full tilt bozo and it doesn’t appear to be any real men remaining to oppose what they have been doing.

    I buy grass-fed beef from local farmers and wild meat is just outside my door.  Try and tax THAT!

  • #5494

    namelus
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    this just show how stupid they are if they really wanted price to go up gut/cut subsidies for soy and corn. Meat will go up in percentage, uou save money, you don’t look like asshole and you get the goal of making meat more pricey.

     

    THey won’t touch this route because big ag has huge lobby and so does Bayer Monsanto and needs and won’t give up corperate welfare for poisoning us all.

    I have people come up and ask why my meat is so expensive, hung weight for pork is $5.25 lb they pay for slaughter and cutting and processing. Total to 7.25 a lb when you in include bacon and hams cut and wrapped.  It’s another $3.50 lb to make sausages. It comes from breed,feed,housing and care levels

    Our pigs take 7-8 months to get to average weight of 150 lb carcass weight, meat is well marbled fat phobics need not buy as no lean cuts. They consume 6 lb of feed plus forrage to gain 1 lb total weight not hang Weight. A total weight live pig that hangs at 150 lb skinless weighs 350 lbs. 350 times 6 is 2100 lb of feed times 15 cents for non gmo feed is $350 in static cost per lb. Piglets if you buy are 150 for breed we use bershire. We breed our own but when selling weaned piglets at 2 months we get 150 a piglet.  So a 150 lb pig times $5.50 is $825 now you need to deduct other soft costs like diatamcious earth, castration, fence repair,  land reseed in fuel and wages plus any deaths, insurance, shipping to slaughterhouse, your time marketing the product.

     

    Factory farmed pig from birth to death is 5.36 months. Fed pellets never see outside lives in a cage. Their meat has a fecal and chemical taste, you only notice once you eat clean meat. They are also full of antibiotics and growth hormones vaccinated chemical dewormer. But it is cheap at Walmart and costco lol.

     

     

    We had a local restaraunt try our bacon, sausage, ham and chops.after 2 months they said not profitable enough, and went back 6 month later they came back, so many complaints, he showed me petition customers signed to ask him to bring back other products, they where even willing to pay more.

     

     

     

    You all know the store bought chickens and turkeys the breast bone has this cartalidge part right?  Real outside free run chicken with proper feed in 10 weeks to get to 5 lb average all those bones are solid, it’s hard to break the leg bones on my chickens after cooked. A commercial chicKen place can get from day old chicks to 5 lb in under 7 weeks the chickens can’t walk and sit next to feeder. They use massive amounts of antibiotics to make them survive that long , bio lab for antibiotic resistant bacteria and you eat it.

     

    Chicken skin when u cooked is not white when healthy its a yellowish color like butter. If you want to see travesty masquerading as food watch a show called food inc.

     

    When I do microbe test on my chicken and turkeys the pre bleach bath is lower than commercial post bath. Inspector actually buys poultry from me now. Is it more work yes, but I love my job and providing good clean meat.

     

    Sadly regs are getting so bad and they closed local slaughter house that now, I have to ship pigs 10 hours to another place. Others are more messed up they can’t even find processing time, and have to sell live animals on auction.

     

    We have applied for a class e slaughter and processing license will allow us to process and sell under 10,000kg a year. But to be very profitable we need to sell much more.

    We have found away to maximize pork process 150 lb turns into 50 lb bacon 30 lb ham  70 lb of sausage the sausage extra ingrients adds the weight. And  the loin chops and tenderloin To do that our cost including the pork is $1250 per pig uou get back about 150 lb of product.

     

    $8.33 a lb is alot more than cheap meat, I have seen pork for under $3 a lb for raw cuts .

     

    We eat on farm one cow 2 pigs and about 50 chicken and 12 turkeys not counting wild game per year. No way would we consider paying for that tax.

     

    We can’t sell raw milk, I have been drinking it for years never been sick from it, though is won’t last long 5 days if you chill it fast in fridge after milking

     

    Sorry about the rant, just seems so silly people who have no idea how food comes makes decisions on it, and take away our rights as informed adults to choose for ourself.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by  namelus.
    • #5503

      James Mitchner
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      We buy grass-fed, grass-finished beef from a local farm.  We had our own chickens until recently, but plan to get some more once I enclose a large enough area.  I free-ranged them previously but kept loosing hens do to predation.

      Namelus, since slaughter houses near you have closed, maybe you and a few neighbors could organize your own and either butcher yourselves or hire a butcher to come in when you need it. I imagine there are some meat cutters around who would like a little part-time work.  Just a thought.

  • #5508

    namelus
    Participant

    We are looking at grants for a mobile slaughterhouse with a freezer and cooling storage place so we can get a once a week pick up to main towns.  But will take a few years for paper work.

     

    @James mitchner Look into a chicken  tractor it’s free range yet caged only need a hen house insulated when in heavy winter snows.

     

     

    • #5511

      James Mitchner
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      I have a coop that I placed on 4 X 4 skids that I can pull from either end.  I would move it every several days and supplemented feeding with non-GMO feed.  Frankly, it became a PIA.  My egg count dropped over the cold months but I still had to feed/water.  I could buy free-range eggs from a neighbor for $3 doz!  A free-range chicken already butchered and dressed for $7/$8.  It was cheaper and less work just to buy it!

      There is a book titled “Gaining Ground”.  Its about a young farmer determined to keep his family farm going and productive.  He finally hit pay dirt by raising organic, grass-fed, pork, beef, and poultry and selling at regional farmers markets.  He was spending a large amount of time maintaining equipment to grow and bail hay for feed.  He discover he could just buy the hay he needed from neighboring farmers.  Saved a lot of headaches.  Check the book out.  I think you would enjoy it.

  • #9839

    Littlesister
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    First time seeing this one. Did not know about the tax on beef.  We are already planning to head to North Carolina to the farms for veggies and now for meat as well. Looking at getting a second freezer if I can make the room for it in garage. Will be using that on to store meat and such so I can get it canned as we go. It would be seperated from the other freezer that I have things I cannot can in. Just makes it easier that way. But this tax thing if it does ever happen, I see big pharma in the picture pushing drugs on us. Sounds like another get rich sceim for them.

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