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Whirlibird 1 year, 5 months ago.
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December 21, 2018 at 5:06 pm #6634
A recent question brought up some things that might be helpful for those seeking to improve the effectiveness of their firearms and ammunition.
Some of these are currently in production and available. Others are long out of production and would need to be fabricated, either at home or by a machinist.
I am not associated with nor do I get anything from any of these products or companies. Just stuff I have found highly useful.
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December 21, 2018 at 5:24 pm #6639
https://www.beartoothbullets.com/tips/archive_tips.htm/25
The .22lr SGB ammunition from CCI and the Silhouette ammo from Winchester were phenomenal when compared to conventional round nose bullets.
The meplat made all the difference, but the Silhouette anmo is long gone, and the SGB’s are hard to find if they are still in production.
What does the .22 user do who wants to bump up the effectiveness of their cheap round nose ammo?
Cut or file a flat on the front. Kids did this for decades by hand, but how to do it so the ammo is all the same? Make a tool or jig.
I have made several by using the directions above, slightly changing them for my use, but this is probably the easiest and cheapest modification that one can do that is truly noticeable.
I sat down at the mill one day and made a 50 round version, where I can file an entire box at the same time.
Highly recommended to anyone with a .22 who goes after game.
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December 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm #6640
http://pacotools.com/tool_discriptions
Paco Kelly has been part of the ammo modification crowd for decades. His latest tools are right up there in the innovation and effectiveness categories.
The Accurizer is probably the most useful tool for people who shoot revolvers and bolt action or single shot rifles.
But what it can do is simply brutal in some cases. I borrowed one from a friend and am still considering getting one or two for myself.
The ATS lethal tool is a modernized SGB tool that utilizes clippers for the trimming.
The shotgun loading gear also bears some scrutiny for anyone who uses a scattergun.
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Whirlibird.
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December 21, 2018 at 5:52 pm #6643
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/QA10.html
This site has more information than can be digested in a reasonable amount of time.
Sorry the picture didn’t transfer, go to the link and scroll down to see it.
Here’s some information on spoonbill bullets.
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Old tricks are also splitting of bullet tip with a knife or slashing a cross-shaped incision on the tip of bullet’s point. These incisions, one or two, should not necessarily be very deep, but just scratches; depth one millimeter or so. They’ll enhance expansion of bullet’s point. More recent innovation is “Loeffelspitzung” of bullet tip. (German: “Loeffel” = spoon or small dipper; “Spitz” = point or tip). It may be done by carving or simply by pressing a shallow “dimple” on the side of bullet tip. Loeffelspitzed bullets are usually as accurate as intact projectiles in flight, but they shall tumble after the hit, being asymmetric.
Trajectory of spoonpointed bullet is somewhat more crooked than trajectory of intact projectile. If the spoonpointing is uniform (width and depth of each pit or dimple are similar on each bullet) trajectory of every bullet is also similar. Sight may be re-adjusted for shooting with spoonpointed bullets. These projectiles shall loose their flight stability and tumble over in flight, but the range is usually about a thousand yards. (Depends on twist of rifling and width/depth of a dimple). Air resistance shall slow down the rotational rate of spoonpointed bullet until it is too slow for gyro-stabilization. Shortened hazardous range is beneficial from viewpoint of shooting safety.

<span style=”color: #000080;”>Point of solid brass 4.7 mm spoonpoint bullet. Considerably less asymmetricity shall be efficient if the bullet is a long pointed boat-tail projectile, just marginally gyro-stabilized in it’s flight, but stable within all practical ranges of actual shooting.
</span>Loeffelspitzung was designed for military purposes; almost adopted in West-Germany for 4.7 mm solid brass bullets of their Heckler & Koch assault rifle. In 1970s vetoed International Committee of Red Cross, because Loeffelspitz bullets inflicted “at least as horrible wounds as explosive or Dum-Dum projectiles”. Germans ceased development of 4.7 mm assault rifle and spoonpointed bullets. Russians designed about in the same time their 5.45 x 40 mm cartridge and bullet with terminal effect similar to German Loeffelspitz bullet, but they managed to hide “intrinsic asymmetricity” into the intact steel jacket.
Pointed FMJ rifle bullets are improved in Finland by filing the tip very sharp from one side, just like a tip of ancient quill or an usual hypodermic needle. Asymmetricity is usually less than one millimeter, but terminal effect of a long (marginally gyro-stabilized) bullet is “impressive”. Some moose hunters and many poachers know this trick in our country. Filing of bullet tip is done so carefully that the lead core shall not become exposed. It is also possible to “emboss” a dimple on the ogive of bullet’s point, about four or five millimeters rearwards from the tip, with some thin ball-pointed tool or to drill a tiny hole through jacket on the bullet’s ogive.
Usual diameter of a drill bit is 2.0 millimeters and depth of the hole is to central longitudial axis of the bullet. Use of full-metal jacketed bullet for moose hunting is illegal in Finland, but drilled projectile is allowed for purpose, because lead core is visible on it’s point. Poachers use “quill filed” bullets or those with a dimple embossed on the ogive. Most poachers are, however, using common factory-made cartridges or handloading components, but: “Kaikkea on kokeiltava, paitsi kansantanhuja ja pikkusiskoa” says a Finnish proverb. (= One should try everything, with exceptions: Country-dance and little sister).
1112 MM; PT
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December 21, 2018 at 6:00 pm #6644
Silent without a silencer. Aka “Cats sneeze” loads.
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/arcane1.html
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/arcane2.html
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/arcane3.html
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/ed.html
Some lost loading information and a history lesson.
I highly recommend copying these pages if not most of the website,this information is still up and available but with the death of the author some years ago, for how long?
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