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January 1, 2022 at 7:52 am #44626
Matt In Oklahoma
ModeratorOver time and even recently some of my favorite gun channels on the net have done cheap vs expensive hollow point ammo videos. The cheap usually do very well or just as good and often times in a misunderstood fashion they declare them “just as good”.
While the bullet may be “just as good” the remaining components are not though it doesn’t make them bad. It depends on what you need.
For your money you get or usually get a nickel plated case for smoother feeding, a sealed bullet and possibly a sealed primer because life, hunting and work happen in weather and you also get a lower flash blended powder for those who work nights or home defense and run the risk of getting into a shootout in lower light conditions and need to regain their night vision quickly.That being all said as someone into preparedness back in the day, when ammo was around, I loved those 100rd green and white box Remingtons and picked them up whenever I found them to put back “in case”.
My personal goal in each caliber is to reach my imagined number of quantities and then focus solely on quality after that. So let’s say in 9mm it’s 5K and I achieve putting back 5K I don’t continue to buy bull I now look for the stuff I like to hunt/self defense with. I purchase the same dollar amount but it’ll be significantly less ammo.
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January 1, 2022 at 9:10 am #44631
Tolik
ParticipantDont forget the internally self exploding ammo . Like G2 Research RIP rounds . Expensive as hell , but worth getting a box or two , and stopping there ……………………when you want it dead , or at least shredded . They tried it with rifle ammo , but the pressures are too high for the exploding design . They do make what they call ” trident ” , which opens up into three sections ………………..I’ll pass on it myself . Looks not much different than what a soft point does . If it exploded into three sections or more , like the pistol ammo does ( 7-8 average ) That would be different .
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January 1, 2022 at 9:47 am #44633
Matt In Oklahoma
ModeratorI’ll leave personal choices up to the buyer/user.
Peoples needs and the gun itself will determine what’s used. I literally have a different load in each handgun I own because they shoot better with one or the other or I have different needs from each.
I tend to shy away from gimmickie ammo myself and just rely on my and others I trust test results. I used to think Extreme Penetrators were gimmicks until I got to used them. The only thing that beats them is heavy hard cast or copper solids. It took me years of testing and research to trust it though.
Too many companies build bullets to perform in ballistic gel rather than real world conditions so be wary because bone and barriers will cause at best disappointment and at worst your death because the threat didn’t get eliminated. -
January 9, 2022 at 5:13 pm #45054
Tolik
ParticipantGimmicky or not , Its solid milled copper , a box or so isnt bd . From Gimmicky , to downright strange , how about the 308 Israeli tear gas rounds ? After so many years ……….they still work .I think they were designed to mess up the driver of a car , attempting to bomb a checkpoint . Could be useful for an American citizen defending himself from …whoever . Have some of them also . As well as Hexolit 32 for the shotgun . Fun stuff in the right situation .
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January 24, 2022 at 3:28 am #45698
Whirlibird
ParticipantI think that you will find that most “generic” jhp loads today are yesterday’s premium bullets.
When stuff like the HST and Hydra -Shoks came out the older ammo was still produced, it was just cheaper because it didn’t use the newer and more expensive tech. And licensing.The Federal “Train and Protect” ammo appears to be the rebranding of the old grey box Hi-Shok JHP’s that were actually extremely well done and reliably expanded in various mediums.
And the Hi Shoks are still available, just in a plain white box now. But you have to look for them, not flashy but they work.
As for the flash retardant powders, I haven’t seen any US made “defense” loads that haven’t or don’t use the flash resistant powders since the late ‘90’s.
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