China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran Set For Electronic Pulse Attacks on U.S.

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This topic contains 19 replies, has 6 voices, and was last updated by  James Mitchner 11 months ago.

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  • #1422

    74
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  • #1443

    Anonymous

    Another BS report sponsored by the MIC to get more money.

    What would our “enemies” have to gain using an EMP attack? Absolutely nothing because the USA has enough military power at sea (both above and under water) and in foreign bases that an attack to the continental USA would bring a retaliatory response large enough to destroy completely NK and Iran, reduce most of China to ashes and seriously damage Russia. So, as a result of their attack, the USA would be sent back to the dark ages, they would be sent to hell.

    The simple idea cited in the article that and EMP attack would not be considered by the USA enough to respond with nuclear weapons is totally ridiculous. Guess the author never paid attention to the nuclear doctrine which is way more liberal than the one of other countries.

  • #1445

    Crow Bar
    Keymaster

    I think it would depend on who is in office, and if it could be established without a doubt who did the attacking.
    After the Iraq invasion there might be more than a few people in Congress demanding absolute proof of who did the attack before retaliation.
    Unless someone wanted to frame the attack on someone else to invoke a massive US military response against the country being framed, I do not see an EMP attack while Trump is in the WH.

  • #1448

    Anonymous

    Sorry Crow, but trusting Congress to do the right thing is hopeless. If Congress were in charge, as it should be, of the war machine, we wouldn’t be occupying Syria, we wouldn’t have troops all over Africa, we would not do military exercises on Russia’s front door.

    If an EMP attack will happen, from a foreign country or a domestic false flag, the response will come directly from the Pentagon and the WH (independently on who is the president) and Congress will learn about it afterward. Well, unless DC is a big hole in the ground by then.

  • #1450

    Crow Bar
    Keymaster

    If you say so.

  • #1454

    Daisy
    Keymaster

    Dark Future, I was with you until you said that Congress would NOT want to be at war with Syria, Russia, Africa. How do you think members of Congress go in poor and come out rich? They ARE the war machine.

    Regarding the topic at hand, an EMP would be an attack that wouldn’t be an existential threat to the rest of the planet. It would be a logical approach to conquering the US, however, I’m not convinced it’s pending right now.

    • #1468

      Anonymous

      Daisy, rereading my post I see it is not clear. I meant that if Congress was really supervising the war machine as Crow Bar hopes and the Constitution dictates, we would not be in the situation we are. Basically, what you said. 🙂

  • #1462

    74
    Participant

    Dark,
    I don’t believe a U.S. reaction would be as decisive as you propose. Certainly any actor engaged in an EMP attack is not going to conduct it in a manner that readily identifies themselves for retaliation.

    As to why would one of the enemies of the U.S. conduct an attack; this has multitudes of answers.

    • This reply was modified 11 months ago by  74.
  • #1476

    Anonymous

    74, you might be right but history proves otherwise. When had the government needed some proof to justify its actions? Iraq had not WMD, Vietnam and Korea never attacked us, Osama-bin-Laden wasn’t in Afghanistan, Assad never gassed his people. There is always an enemy ready to blame for anything.

    About the reasons that the “enemies” (sorry but I have to use the quotation because I think that the one we are talking about here are a pure invention) could have to use an EMP to attack the USA, feel free to elaborate because I can’t see any. Even if the US Government policies are pissing every single living being on the planet, they can just let the country fall apart and move one. The USA is not indispensable, no matter what people think.

  • #1479

    Anonymous

    Daisy, your say “[An EMP] would be a logical approach to conquering the US” but think who could do that. Iran and North Korea have not enough population or resources to attempt an invasion even of a weakened USA. Russia, has half of the population of the USA, plenty of natural resources and territory so why should they do that well knowing that they can be retaliated against and will lose everything? Last actor in the list is China. China needs agricultural land and is dependent for some natural resources from other countries so it would be the only possible perpetrator. If they do it, they have to move millions of soldiers to the former USA to control even a reduced population. Not easy to do especially after all your main cities as been nuked.

    My conspiratorial mind tells me that if an event that looks like an EMP attack ever happens, it will be an inside job.

  • #1480

    James Mitchner
    Participant

    Sending the “Great Satan” back into the Tenth century might just be attractive enough to a regime whose guiding doctrine dictates that in order for the Twelfth Imam to re-appear there must be massive global chaos and bloodshed. They certainly have the lift capability. A couple small nukes, built or purchased, launched from a couple of modified tankers off each coast would likely do it. Little Rocket Man is probably crazy enough to do it too, if goaded enough or thinks he can get away with it. We simply do not know what capability our military would have after such an event. Would their communications still work? Satellites? If they were to launch a nuclear response… to somewhere… that “somewhere” can likely respond in kind. It would be a horrible scenario for us, but maybe an attractive one to someone else.

  • #1486

    James Mitchner
    Participant

    I want to expand on my previous post a bit after thinking more on this subject.

    The world is changing. In fact, it has changed. Its just that most of us haven’t realized it yet. Alliances, backroom deals, national/region agendas are so much in flux that a program can’t keep up with it.

    We gravitate to point towards the same “enemies’ over and over for whatever scenario anyone can compile when considering an attack of any sort on the US. We really should start thinking outside the box. The ‘game’ is constantly changing.

    The EU hates us. Not necessarily the European people, but the EU system hates us. Might they secretly fantasize about our destruction? I think so. And, don’t overlook the fact that the completion of Europeans is changing dramatically due to unchecked and ill advised immigration from mostly Muslim countries. Europe is being invaded and conquered through unchecked immigration that no military invasion was ever able to succeed in doing.

  • #1491

    Daisy
    Keymaster

    Dark Future, Bingo. But of course, it’ll be blamed on someone else so that we can go to war. Go directly to war. Do not stop. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Unless, of course, you’re in the industry of war.

    • This reply was modified 11 months ago by  Daisy.
  • #1493

    Anonymous

    James, you’re right. The world is changing and the USA is still living in the delusion of being a great empire. We blame others for our faults and we live above our means, thinking that all is due to us. We still think that the we are the shining city on the hill but we have lost all the moral integrity. The empire is collapsing and like every empire before the collapse start from within. I do not think there is much that can be done to save us but the more people learn the lesson, open their eyes to the reality of things, and regain the humility that is a necessary part of life, the more hope there will be that we will be able to rebuild a better society on the ruins of the collapsed empire.

  • #1496

    74
    Participant

    China’s plan is to dominate the world, there is plenty of documentation of that. They would have attacked the U.S. long ago however all there war game planing shows them that the U.S beats them due to our sub fleet. When the Chinese work out a solution they will initiate the plan.

    With the heavy ship traffic between China and the U.S. it wouldn’t be difficult to have a landing force hidden and at the ready sitting at anchor of the West coast.

    Iran would attack us in a heart beat without sending a single man.

    • This reply was modified 11 months ago by  74.
    • #1622

      James Mitchner
      Participant

      My old shipmates and I discuss both China and Russia all the time. We spend $13B on a single new aircraft carrier while China and Russia spend much less to develop a capability to sink them and deploying hypersonic missiles. We have no defense against them! Unfortunately it was made all too easy for them over the eight years of the previous administration. The US could have built three or four new nuclear subs for that price. I might also mention that the launch system as well as other new installed systems on the carrier aren’t working as designed.

  • #1501

    James Mitchner
    Participant

    I don’t consider myself to be an optimist. But neither am I a pessimist. I am a pragmatist, possibly. I am also a Christian. Well, let me restate that. I am a follower of Yashua. Too many people IMHO call themselves Christian yet are anything but Christian. I hold no distain against anyone who thinks otherwise. However, I believe, and I think grand events are materializing before our eyes for those capable of seeing. As such, I do not believe events will bode well for the US. We have strayed into abhorrent territory that will not be overlooked.

  • #1506

    James Mitchner
    Participant

    The US economy is the largest in the world. The US is China’s largest market for the goods they produce. Directly attacking the US would eliminate their largest trading partner. I think they are more interested in solidifying their dominance in the Western Pacific for now. But Westerners must first realize that everything is war to the Chinese – treaties, trade, political accommodations, EVERYTHING! Military conflict is the last.

  • #1516

    Merkava
    Participant

    I read that the USA drops a bomb somewhere in the world every 14 minutes; that may include weapons we’ve sold to Saudi, Israel, and many many others. So we’re already at war with much of the world; of course no declaration of war since 1941, Executive just does whatever he wants…no check or balance by any Congress.

  • #1572

    74
    Participant

    “no declaration of war since 1941, Executive just does whatever he wants…no check or balance by any Congress”

    Not entirely true

    “The U.S. Congress has granted President George W. Bush the authorization he sought to wage war if necessary to disarm Iraq, as the Senate followed the House of Representatives to support him with overwhelming votes.”

    “Until a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) is passed by Congress, our last three presidents have all used the AUMF passed after 9/11/2001 as broad permission to fight all terror groups and acts of terror, anywhere in the world. This is the justification for the thousands of troops presently deployed to Iraq and Syria, and for other Special Operations missions in places like Somalia and Yemen.”

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