January 25, 2021 at 8:28 pm #32161
I know Namelus stated they had some but I wasn’t sure if anyone else did. It’s a deck of cards with questions or scenarios that you ask a group and then everyone responds.
The responses can vary greatly because of life experiences. Open discussions are often heated but can be kept civil. Anyone who can’t might be a red flag for you to deal with now.
Here is an easy question from them
Here is a more difficult one
I find them interesting but the answers and reactions more so.
January 26, 2021 at 10:41 am #32166
Will have to look into getting those.
January 26, 2021 at 2:43 pm #32167
Hey, anyone be interested in playing the “game” here on the forum?
Be like a open table top discussion.
January 26, 2021 at 5:56 pm #32169
I would play but i think it should be in the need an account area.
I would say nothing and keep on loading up. We do go to a box store every once awhile mostly shop now direct from wholesale or local farmer trade. Reason if they dont get it now nothing last minute will.give them right mind set to survive.
They would if they listen to you buy some extra food… depending on what type of scenario electricity may not be available so a complete waste. No extra water to.prepare most foods , no fuel /heat sources not grid tied. Plus most would believe MSM and think it’s no big deal.so.share with neighbors thinking it will be back to normal next week.
As with the death one …. we are prepared for that all I will say is you wont have pain and simply fall asleep never to wake. All sourced locally so easy to get hands on.
There is another card with $300 and what do you buy to get home..here I would say $1000 what would you buy at box store?
January 27, 2021 at 8:28 am #32189
I would play but i think it should be in the need an account area.
We can move it/start it in the Off-Topic-Chit-Chat section.
January 26, 2021 at 9:34 pm #32177LittlesisterParticipant
Interesting set of cards. But for the first one, no I would not share what I know with strangers. I figure if they aren’t keeping up with the news on it and it has been on the news already. Then they are on their own. One reason is that if I am stocking up to fill in gaps in what I have plus extra meat for canning, etc. There could be a chance if I told someone I didn’t know what I was doing and they need to stock up as well. Who’s to say they won’t follow me to my car, let me load it up and then follow me home to rob me of my preps. Not likely to happen but you never know.
As for the second question from those cards. I am already going through a situation with my DH. He can barely walk. Cannot pull himself up out of bed to a sitting position all Because of loss of muscle in left leg and CHF. He is in no pain and there is no way I would end his life because of it. Though it is very hard on him having to have me do everything for him, and we already know there is no hope for recovery from CHF. Both our feelings on it is that when God is ready to take him, he will. Am I ready for that? NO. But I know it will come one day. As for medical help, I can’t get him the help he needs now. So it would not be anything new for me when SHTF. I am already there.
January 26, 2021 at 11:56 pm #32183Olivia GreenParticipant
crow bar, i too would be interested in ‘playing the game’
as to sharing information, i’ve tried over the 6 years i’ve lived here to ‘hint’ things may get difficult.
what i hear is ‘oh you’re just on the internet all the time and believe all that stuff.’
yup.. on the internet where i go to about 15 sources every day.
and do research on new points of view.
mean while they are watching MSM news that all say the exact same thing about every event.
so have pretty much given up trying to help people be prepared.
January 27, 2021 at 5:41 am #32185
An Internet forum is a good place to try this scenario game. I got a couple decks of these cards but couldn’t get any interest at home for it.
1) If the SHTF were clearly coming down tomorrow and folks in the market were eyeing my cart suspiciously I’d tell them to bugger off and get out ASAP: “Toilet paper is in Aisle 12” , and watch them move out as a pack while I head to checkout.
2) Even the best of modern medicine can’t always bring us back to recovery. We as a family had to agree to remove the ventilator on a relative who was dying of covid; after 2 weeks intubation (which is so uncomfortable the doctors have to medically induce a coma to keep a patient from ripping it out), his organs and life systems failed one after another. There was nothing left to do.
January 28, 2021 at 2:12 pm #32320
I’m going to urge caution on answering some of these.
For instance the death one. You don’t want to say “yeah I’d off them” then something bad happen to that person later and they do an internet search and find that statement making you suspect #1. It’s one thing in your group but entirely another on the net where we are labeled domestic terrorist for smoke living and unapologetic viewpoints.
January 28, 2021 at 2:32 pm #32321
On the question of helping folks at the store. No I’m not going to start preaching to the sheeple in Walmart trying to change them however I can say I might help a fellow preparedness minded one looking because I did so when covid was about to hit. I overheard a very young couple talking looking for an item and the wife and I quietly showed them what to get and where it was located. I believe in helping those who are trying within reason
January 28, 2021 at 7:37 pm #32345
On the death question. This is actually one the wife and I have discussed at length due to certain illnesses and factors. It not one I’d wish on anyone. It is important to hash out now in order to avoid conflict later or at least attempt to.
in the meantime
January 28, 2021 at 3:28 pm #32322corsaireParticipant
1. No. I dont want to start a convo and have people fishing for info, as in “you live in the area? ect. I want to be as grey man as possible. Quietly putting things in my cart and moving on.Now I would share that info with close friends and help them out.
2. I dont think I could. Would I make them as comfortable as possible? yes, but end their life, dont think so.
January 29, 2021 at 9:05 am #32708
I dont see the point of trying to convince some people of the need to prep in that scenario.
And, while I dont care what they think, likely they will think I am a kook and not listen anyways.
Oh, here is a story a good friend of mine told me.
He lives on the coast in SC. Hurricane territory. Hurricane was coming, he decided to pick up a few extra things. He was standing in line, lots of people were they also buying. Woman in front of him had a shopping cart full of microwave dinners. He asked her would she heat those if the power went out.
She responded somewhat snarky that she would use the microwave oven.
She turned back around. Stood there for a moment. And then what she just said dawned upon her, and she left the cart there and stormed out of the store.
January 29, 2021 at 2:52 pm #32710
Next two questions anyone game?
January 30, 2021 at 7:55 am #32989
In those type of environments it won’t take Lexi long to figure out anything. It’s very similar to prison in that you will know by dinner how things are. It’s rarely a slow process.
She will have to distinguish between them watching her for their safety, as she is also an unknown, or watching her for escape. She will need to see how open others are about how it is there.
January 29, 2021 at 2:58 pm #32711
January 30, 2021 at 8:02 am #32990
Find out why she got kicked to the curb.
Figure out if there’s still any emotions as drama isn’t needed. Figure out if whoever is with her is gonna have any emotions about it. Drama kills
Vetting process should be the same for everyone regardless. If you know that person and they are of true quality then you should be willing to not vote and allow the group to do so.
If they aren’t bringing anything I’m not going to lean towards that however I can usually find uses for everyone. The other question is are they teachable?
January 30, 2021 at 10:51 pm #33104
I guess for me it says they dont bring anything to group, so do they think they are entitled to anything from you and yours? The next is how much of a finite resource will you be using to integrate them into your group. Is there any other people who want in.
There is always a reason for a split ask a friend in group what they saw in interactions during breakup a more balanced veiw.
Nut in my current situation I would no vote them simply because we have quality people who have skills and resources we are vetting no reason to give up finite space to lackluster applicants.
January 31, 2021 at 8:05 am #33110
Well, an obvious tell would be others tied up.
Do some appear to be nervous or anxious?
Is she not allowed to talk freely with others?
Signs of physical abuse?
January 31, 2021 at 8:07 am #33111
Nelsons group: If not adding anything to the group of significance, and the very real possibility of some old feelings or perceived rival, real or not could bring a volatility to the group.
I’d vote nay.
February 1, 2021 at 7:11 pm #33221
Lexi; are her new acquaintances overly eager to bring her on board? Are other women in the group acting like they are hostages? Are there any children around, and how do they react to Lexi?
February 1, 2021 at 7:22 pm #33222
Nelson: can two more members do enough useful to warrant the extra strain on food and other resources? More bodies means more work can be accomplished, whether weeding and harvesting or scavenging, but safety and security get more complicated. More eyes looking out for dangers can mean more rest for everybody else.
February 1, 2021 at 8:03 pm #33223
… But the “ex” thing is worrisome. Can they let bygones be bygones, or will emotions spin out of control and threaten the safety of all concerned?
March 4, 2021 at 11:03 am #34137
It would be situation dependent. If it was TEOTWAWKI where there’s more death than life then yeah I’m getting in the cabin. If it’s because society broke down and I had to leave a city area I might wait and sleep in the car or something. If the weather was grave like our recent cold snap then I’m going in.
I’ll hang on to my moral compass as long as possible
March 4, 2021 at 2:03 pm #34141
If teowaki I would love in right away no point in waiting.
In today’s world if in my area now we have a few such cabins. People moving in would not be treated kindly with exception of known people and the condition of items and cabin would be taken into consideration. Either way it would be prickly when or if others showed up …. more to the point would you give up cabin and how far would you go to keep it. Think late fall early winter and now someone comes to claim cabin… all the preps for winter done the party that leaves has a 1 in 4 chance to survive… now what?
March 4, 2021 at 3:41 pm #34144
Well, if the ROL is out the winder, I think I would be inclined to go for it.
However, I also would not ransack it, or be disrespectful of personal items.
IF the owner shows up, 1) how does he/she prove they are the owners? Just saying so, does not make it so (unless it is obvious as they are the ones in the photos hanging on the wall). 2) Are they going to come shooting and not ask questions?
I would be willing to say, “Hey, my bust, my apologies, me and mine will be on our way.” IF they are not shooting.
Then again, what is their situation? Could this be a mutual beneficial relationship, whereas we have the skills and they are lacking? Safety in numbers or more hands to make fast and easy work to secure the cabin, get more fire wood, hunting etc.?
March 6, 2021 at 6:05 pm #34179
You’d have to very deep in SHTF to attempt a rural squatter’s homestead. If you attempted to move into any place near my neck of the woods you’d have 3 or 4 neighbors in your face in pretty short order, inquiring about your bizness. A WROL disaster in your big city is merely somebody else’s problem in the outback places we tend to favor. What might work out is negotiating a rental agreement with the owner, on the spot. A mob of squatters is nothing but trouble but a group that can provide labor and extra hands may prove more compelling a reason for someone to let you stay.
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