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November 18, 2020 at 4:52 pm #30857
Anonymous
Since 1987 I’ve been trained annually on CPR and I’ve used it multiple times. Only once unsuccessfully.
In our covid world it’s all the more reason to have a one way valve and consider doing chest compressions only CPR.
So when the last time you used it? When’s the last time you trained in it? -
November 18, 2020 at 5:15 pm #30858
Island Girl
ParticipantThat’s one area in which I’m deficient. I’ve never done CPR on a live person and it’s been more years than I care to remember since I took a CPR course. I know the theory, but that’s totally different in practice.
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November 18, 2020 at 9:04 pm #30862
Grwrn
ParticipantBeing a nurse practitioner that rotates both the office and hospital settings, I am required to have both BLS and ACLS. I guess being medical is the best prepper skill I have. I have to recertify every 2 years. I once did CPR at a wedding of one of my friends on the groom’s uncle. He cardiac arrested on the dance floor. If we have a code in the hospital, we rotate and take turns doing chest compressions. If CPR is done correctly, one minute of performing chest compressions can be exhausting.
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November 18, 2020 at 11:54 pm #30870
Littlesister
ParticipantI am retired from medical field and had to have all of that training as well. But have not kept it up like I should. But I do know how to do it and I have the one way valve that Matt is talking about. Good thing to have.
And Annie said she can’t feel her legs. LOL!
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November 19, 2020 at 12:06 am #30871
OldMt Woman
ParticipantUff tah! Been a loooong time. Younger days, I needed to be certified on a regular basis. First Aid. CPR. etc. Used basic First Aid numerous times working in camps and children’s residential facilities. Even water safety too. Pulled several kids out of lakes before they got into real trouble…before CPR was needed.
6 yr old boy in residential home, did the classic Eyes Wide/ Hands On Throat move. Got him upside down across my lap and whacked his upper back. Not exactly by the book but he was small enough to do it. Out came the meat that was blocking his airway. Whew!
I use basic First Aid all the time. Even on animals. My friend is studying to become an instructor for that and CPR. Maybe I should travel over to take a class, once she’s up and ready. It’s been too long…..and much has changed.
OldMtWoman …putting “one-way valve” on my ever-growing list
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November 19, 2020 at 12:31 am #30874
namelus
ParticipantCPR is nearly useless it has a 12%chance of rececitation on a child or healthy adult. It’s used as a keep o2 going to brain and body till hospital and or staff.
In shft if you do compressions on elderly you will most likely break rib cage and sternum which can cause a short but painful life after CPR if revived.
Getting defibrillator is at least 20%without drugs it’s a nice fairytale but having done cpr for 20 mins on trip to hospital I could not move arms next day… person still died. Have done it 5 times Zero survuvors. Granted most where old or had extreme trauma chest hitting steering wheel or other severe mva.
We had an instructor that could handle having use use manual restpirations on them… it is not at all like the doll.
Learning first aid is good but remember it’s mainly so you can get medical facilities…. what will you do if none to go to or closed like now with shut downs…. better add some more skills. Book when there are no doctors is a good start.
Same type of reference when there is no dentist… getting a proper extractor pliers now is a good thing and hope you don’t ever need to.use…
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January 12, 2021 at 4:01 pm #31977
Anonymous
Recertification today. There’s still plenty of training going around out there folks. Get ya some
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January 12, 2021 at 5:06 pm #31981
namelus
ParticipantLol just finished a advanced life support with iv and injectables… and I lost another cardiac arrest but they came in after 30 min with o2 level of 95%saturated.
Looking forward to next week we are having a fun house day with everyone….. have a special instructor coming for clearing upgrade specific for our place.
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January 12, 2021 at 10:15 pm #31985
OldMt Woman
Participantquote Namelus: I lost another cardiac arrest but they came in after 30 min with o2 level of 95%saturated
??? Um…do you mean the person died cuz of 30 min at 95% O2? {scratching head}
Mebbe I misunderstood?
Can it possibly be THAT much different for us high altitude folks????
I just took mine: 91% which is well within normal range…. The medical folks don’t even panic if someone’s at 88% but will probably stick them on O2 if it’s 87%.
However….DH came in with P.E. and the RN nearly popped her eyes out when it read 68%. He was still standing tho. She says, ” I hope that’s not right – – TAKE some deep breaths”….and he got shoved into the ER room immediately. Blood came out of the vein really thick. We produce more red blood cells up here. ….and yeah, he drove us to the ER from our place.
OldMtWoman …or…is THAT why I’m gettin’ forgetful? LOL
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January 13, 2021 at 12:57 am #31991
namelus
Participant@oldmtwoman no they where dead but I managed to keep their blood oxygen at 95 percent for the 30 min ambulance ride to hospital. They had a pace maker so no aed can be used…
In previous post matt rightfully said I had dismal zero survivors … I tried extra hard still no go and I had to k now if it was bad technique but blood o2 says I did it right but no recovery… even direct shot of adrenaline to the heart ordered by doc during ride was a no revive…
We are at 1100 ft … my o2 never goes to 90 regardless of how hard I work out with exception of being choke hold knocked out in sparring. 92 and we use oxygen on patient.
I am not a doctor but if always at 91 I would see if you can improve upon it it’s right in pre danger amount having more saturation is good especially when you have sickness or lung injury. Also are you taking it at rest for several minutes?
Think of it like this when you see Olympic athletes the marathon guys look like scarecrow and the sprinters are all buff
Marathon running has equivalent of a high tuned 4 cylinder engine it runs on little fuel and is not a large displacement volume. A sprinter is high volume max fuel short duration.
When you get sick you lose volume in lungs as they fill up no matter how efficient eventually it is strictly a volume and absorption of o2 that keeps you alive. In most fight or flight scenarios it is quick explosive power required, not saying you should not do only that but the bigger your lungs the better you will do at all activities.
Co2 max training is one of the ways to increase your lung volume, in past they thought that was not possible only to get super efficient.
Basically if you are healthy enough to do rigorous excercises then from a warmed up full rest run up hill as fast as possible till you cant go one more step. Stop you will actually pant harder before you slow back down
Walk back to start and just walk slow circles till fully recovered and do this again. Minimum 4 times max 6 there is no gain under 4 no extra over 6. Mark the place on hill and do this every other day…. you will be amazed how fast you gain capacity as added bonus it makes your body store more energy as glycogen for instant muscle use instead of fat. It also cost more to keep the glycogen available so you burn more calories. Even while at rest.
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January 13, 2021 at 1:23 am #31992
namelus
ParticipantVo2 not co2
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January 13, 2021 at 2:34 am #31994
OldMt Woman
ParticipantAhh….it did sound strange the way I read it. Rotten luck that you keep getting the no-go ones…..but at least you try.
But being near sea level makes a huge difference. Add nearly 8,000 feet UP from your elevation to get up to my level. Rocky Mts. We produce more red blood cells for more carriers of O2. So is the meter registering what each cell carries or overall O2 in the blood? If they don’t carry as much saturation but there is more red cells….does that fit into the equation? A bit over my level of science. I just know from our elderlies, being on O2…not surprising in very old age.
Yes, 91 O2 sat. was resting for quite a while. Usually between 90-95%. But really, they don’t worry up here. “Flatlanders” come up here to work in medical field and nearly have a heart attack themselves reading our O2 saturation. They say at 87 – definitely your cells are dying tho.
2020 being an exception to nearly everything….but for us, COVID wasn’t even the reason, mostly. I got ill early [not COVID] and lingered with this or that. We never get sick so this was exceptional….and annoying! Then took a fall which further messed up my routines of walking. Uff Tah, what an immobilized year!
But due to the above, I’m currently barely able to walk without supports. In house or short distance is mostly okay. I went over to church today and began to tremble just sitting there with a small spaced-apart group. Had to use their wheelchair to get to car. Not O2 issue, just my usual impairment tipping the bad end of the scale. Hmph! That part should pass…eventually.
That said, anyone will be better off with higher O2 and muscle stamina. I need to begin strength exercises that one can do from sitting/laying position. Soup cans! Can’t address cardio until I can get back other losses. I do walk back and forth in house or just outside…when walking possible. Trying not to lose it all.
OldMtWoman ….who’s gonna get ‘older’ if I don’t try an intervention, Hmph!
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