December 24, 2020 at 9:10 am #31714
December 24, 2020 at 9:22 am #31715
Yup several companies have put out videos to quell the naysayers and conspiracy theories. It’s just the perfect storm and how folks didn’t see it coming is beyond me.
The election was enough but the combined fuel really added.
Even if things stabilize it’ll be years before normalcy but that’s doubtful given the conditions. What’s killing it now is folks paying outrageous prices still and still buying guns with no ammo.
I know of at least one guy who is planning on using his limited capacity to kill enough to get more. He’s very vocal about it.
Food and maybe water is next IMO
December 24, 2020 at 3:12 pm #31716Casper ShipParticipant
You gotta wonder exactly what kind of person would wait until this point in time, before they decided to buy a gun….or spare ammo?
December 24, 2020 at 4:00 pm #31717
The only ones I really feel for are the young just coming of age doing the scramble.
For the rest the message has always been the same:
Buy It Cheap Stack It Deep
December 25, 2020 at 9:25 am #31722
I could see why people living in cities where they are defunding the police would buy this late in the game.
Up until then, they never thought they would need it.
December 27, 2020 at 10:29 pm #31771WhirlibirdParticipant
A person who just came of age?
A person dealing with other problems?
I can remember 1994, and the trading and swapping that happened then, people changing from one make/model to another one that was on the “ban list” and the prices associated with such.
Then there’s those that just got into them then, it happens, pretty much every time we have a problem.
December 25, 2020 at 8:31 am #31718TolikParticipant
Thats where the old farts like us come in . We grew up with guns , and most of us have several , more than enough to provide one or three to our younger family members . Depending on what state you live in , all perfectly legal , AND under the radar . One of the few good things Arizona is good about …………few gun laws .
December 25, 2020 at 8:44 am #31719
Yup that’s a fact.
I made sure my kids left the house with a brace of them: shotgun, hunting rifle, AR, handgun and 22.
I’m now working on the grands stuff.
December 25, 2020 at 8:51 am #31720
<div>One of our local 3 gun competitions has been canceled due to the shortages and the pistol competition will be a limited round count much like the days of Sandy Hook shooting panic buying.</div>
<div>The ranges are full but only shooting what is on hand so folks are not spending a lot of time there. I saw a lot of 22s there too.</div>
<div>Training has crashed between ammo and covid.</div>
<div>Hunting stayed steady it seemed.</div>
<div>What this tells me is it’s short term fear hoarding. That’s gonna be a lot of shooting if something else happens.</div>
December 25, 2020 at 9:29 am #31723
I am surprised to hear people are shooting their .22LR.
I got out the Izzy the other day (https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/IZH_46M_Match_Air_Pistol/78)
December 25, 2020 at 9:47 am #31726
We’ve had 22 on the shelves till the shortage.
I’m gonna burn some this weekend from 1983 in a Marlin lever gun just for fun.
December 25, 2020 at 9:14 am #31721TolikParticipant
You know something else WILL happen . Communism is an evil mind disease , that `cares nothing for human rights , liberty , or life . Too many drones of the state that have no conscience , or responsibility to their fellow American .
January 25, 2021 at 8:54 pm #32162
January 26, 2021 at 6:27 pm #32172
Lol yeah no cheap ammo unless you have connection to owners of factories and even then they have to owe you large as endless demand.
You can find some overseas if you have the permits or way to.import.
As for 22 why stop after first few barrels of ammo…. cosmoline sealer and away you go….. right now honestly we dont buy much new ammo just reload stuff. With Dillon systems we push out 1300 finished an hour.
January 31, 2021 at 2:44 pm #33144
February 1, 2021 at 8:34 am #33204
February 1, 2021 at 9:14 am #33206
Yeah just as well laugh cause 6.5 Grendel is gone.
gonna get a new barrel and use a spare BCG when I run out I guess.
February 2, 2021 at 8:53 am #33239
So we’ve had several gunshows recently and I’ve gotten a lot of calls and texts since.
It seems 9mm is sold in sandwich bags now and in the rush to buy ARs some rather unscrupulous dealers are building junk and selling them to these idiots who know nothing.
The PSA complete lowers we’re going for $500 even though you can order them for 1/2.
Last nights call and text was an AR10 that the bolt wouldn’t even lock back. Yeah that’s gonna happen when you put a shorter buffer tube on it like they did.
Seriously tell folks to calm down, use their heads and be smart. Guns and ammo aren’t magic and ya can’t surround yourself with them to ward off evil.
February 3, 2021 at 12:49 pm #33266
Stopped at academy this morning to pick up some athletic gear. Ammo line was around the building with bunch of kalifornia tags in the parking lot. I’m being told that KBI follows Kalifornians to the gunshows in Nevada n Arizona and then arrests them as they drive back because Kalifornia has a 5 day wait period background check on ammo now too. Dunno if that’s true but it sounds plausible.
They got in Tula 223 n 9 and they were losing their minds.
Winchester 12ga AAs skeet shells sold out before I picked a swimming suit.
I didn’t get in the line.
Buy It Cheap Stack It Deep
February 3, 2021 at 6:23 pm #33271
I found a new gas station on a reserve that was selling guns and ammo….. had a pallet of Soviet canned ak ammo 10 cases of .22 or Winchester black. 6 cans of 12 gauge 2 3/4 buck00 and skeet steel. 10 vinyl bags of 5.56…. 9mm about 5000 rounds…. clerk kinda looked weird as we took it all. Super lucky find gas station was grand opening today… just happened to stop buy as open sign on window….
February 3, 2021 at 8:17 pm #33275LittlesisterParticipant
They also plan on making everyone go through a phychological exam if you own a gun. The plan I think is to go through the federal gov. I will take one if Biden and Harris along with Clinton and others take one also. They are the problem not us. Either way they are going to try to enforce us first through a pay out plan to pay us if we turn them in on our own. After that they will go door to door. This is what some of the news media are saying. I will just sit back at this point and see what happens.
February 3, 2021 at 9:02 pm #33278
Door to door with who ? Lol they haven’t got a single agency that’s staffed. Lots of luck with that anyway but y’all be careful how ya respond. Don’t fall into their trap
February 3, 2021 at 11:45 pm #33281
The one thing I would bet on is it will not be as simple as passing a law and everything will comply.
Well if we are going with psychological test… right after top down every person passes or loses job immediately… then you know who is them vs rest.
February 4, 2021 at 8:29 am #33284
A psych test.
I think everyone would fail! And not even having anything to do with firearms!
“Ya’ll nutz!” 😉
February 4, 2021 at 3:16 pm #33292
“8 million first time gun owners in the U.S. in 2020. If each of those new gun owners purchased a 50ct. box of ammo, that’s 400,000,000 rounds.“
February 4, 2021 at 7:27 pm #33295
So guys to train to reasonable proficiency what amount would you say as first time shooter/owner?
Me I would say minimum would be 2000 rounds for first platform with 500 to change to different but same style platform. This is considering most will have atleast 3 separate platforms. A shot gun a rifle and a pistol.
This is not well trained this is being able to somewhat hit a paper target without endangering yourself or others. Well trained well really where is the limit? We put through min 200 rounds a month per platform to keep skills up…. I would suggest 500 on your primary rifle and your pistol… atleast 100 with shotty.
So for 8 million new users to get minimum qualifications on my numbers it would be 16,000,000,000 and 4,000,000,000 a month to keep minimum skills on one possibly 2 weapon platforms.
So how many do you think can or will do this let alone advance training or do you think they bought it as magic charm to wave around and have problem retreat in fear.
You are going to see some horrific accidents and people getting killed like selco was saying guy with gun killed by guy with knife….
February 4, 2021 at 7:52 pm #33298LittlesisterParticipant
Under marshal law, my understanding is that they will call out the national guard and or military to go door to door. Under socialism and communism they will want to spread the wealth. They will take your food and guns. And anything else they find they think they might need for the sake of feeding the needy. We will all be needy at the rate they are going. I read somewhere that they were going to use the police but after the way they have treated the police and now wanting defund them. The Dems won’t get any help from them. Biden has already signed over 40 executive orders. More than any other president ever has. He has sold us out and they are lining their pockets already.
February 5, 2021 at 8:05 am #33310
I have always wondered on that one.
When I was in the Marines, in NCO school we had a class about following lawful and unlawful orders.
Where would that fall into a gun confiscation, door-to-door scenario? Even if Congress passed a law?
Would officers resign their commission?
Enlisted refuse orders?
February 15, 2021 at 7:53 am #33527
Can y’all show me this National martial law or the plan?
February 15, 2021 at 9:11 am #33530
At one point, Gov Cuomo considered using the NG to go door to door to enact his SAFE law.
To say the least, he got considerable push back from the NG leadership.
However, I would not put it past this Admin to try something that stoopid.
February 15, 2021 at 9:13 am #33532
Yeah that’s state. Looking for National.
Because as far as I know it doesn’t exist
February 15, 2021 at 11:30 am #33537
But realistically, from just a manpower and logistical point of view, something like that would require the NG (Army, Air, and Space).
February 5, 2021 at 1:32 pm #33313
Some officers would some would blindly follow orders and other would and then later either have regrets about it or quit. The unlucky few will die.
I would think this would tear military/ng into factions and they would loose alot of skilled personnel and not be able to replace easily and for years if ever. Remember the British where recruiting all the way till end of war of 1776. Just few to no takers….
February 15, 2021 at 7:57 am #33528
The hoarding of ammo reaches new heights daily. Most stores with ranges have laid off folks because there is no one shooting. The flip side of it is they still won’t allow steel cases because they sell back the brass. That’s stuck on stupid on their part. Let folks shoot their tula and make a few bucks rather than none. A magnet will sort the floor stuff out.
Make sure y’all keep up your skill sets. Allot a portion of your holdings to proficiency. If all you’ve got is a hundred rounds then I get it stay with dry fire but I know some with10K rounds who’ve not gone since BC before covid.
Surrounding yourself with boxes of ammo and lined walls of guns won’t save you. Hitting the target will.
February 15, 2021 at 9:12 am #33531
Using air rifle and pistol.
But well said.
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