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https://www.zerohedge.com/health/getting-real-about-green-energy
He only touches on it briefly, but suggest people doing more with less.
I would say doing without.
Without that 2400sqft home for a family of 3.
Without all those big screen TVs. Or TV period.
Without cars.
Without AC.
Without getting any imports (sorry, no new plastic pumpkins or iPhones).
Without out of season strawberries.
And so on.That is IF you are really serious about getting off fossil fuels, and going Green.
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So looking at “windmills” seriously.
Will a windmill ever recoup the energy and materials to make each one?
Do the math.
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My grandparents lived on a ranch , so rural , they were off the grid completely . This is in the 30’s and 40’s . He liked to listen to the radio , so he built a windmill for the electricity . Worked well . That was with old technology .
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I get what you are saying Tolik.
Getting the average American to give up things like the internet, their big screen TVs, AC . . .And if the author’s math is correct, 1,500 windmills occupying 300 sqmi everyday, now till 2050, I think we would run out of land mass, not that every place is conducive to wind energy.
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I dont have a TV, dont miss it either.
iphones, yea not into disposable tech and sadly it has come down to that.
but no plastic pumpkins!!! how cruel 😛
a/c would be tough in my climate.
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I would love to go back to the days of just living simple. If DH would let me the TV would be the first to go and then the internet right behind it. I for one would not miss it and would save a bundle. I had a great uncle that had a house at base of mountains. He had the old ice box that he had to get the ice blocks for. A stream running through the back yard that the water was so cold you didn’t need ice. And it was clean water. No bathroom just the outhouse. A wood stove to cook on and heat house from. No electric and no running water. He really lived a life that for people today would never make it living like that. I remember as a child visiting him and we stayed there on weekends. In the hotest part of the summer it would be freezing at night at the base of that mountain. I loved it there.
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AnonymousThat’s fine if you don’t have a TV, but I’m not giving mine up. I got rid of the satellite, to expensive, but I can pickup 50 local channels using a small $30 digital TV antenna. But, I hope you at least have a battery operated radio, preferably AM, FM and shortwave. Got to be able to get news somewhere if the Internet is down. An emergency alert radio is a must too. You have to know what’s going on outside your neighborhood/community when the SHTF. Riots, flooding, fire, weather and much more.
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Absolutely no money. The internet went down during hurricane Irma, and I was able to get my news from my the emergency radio.
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no money, I’m not given mine up yet, but I really don’t watch it that much. Just have a lot to get done. I do have several radios and they are also emergency radios. They run electric, solar, wind up, and battery. So we would be fine with those. As a child we didn’t have a TV till the early 60’s. So I guess that is where my not missing a TV comes from. And if the lights went out, we wouldn’t have it anyway so better to get used to not watching it all the time. Though telling that to DH is another story. He watches it all day. But then to give him credit, he really isn’t able to do much else. It sucks because I have really missed those deep sea fishing trips. Freezer full of tuna, togtog, etc. That was some good eating. Fresh grilled tuna on the grill.
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