I can tell ya and the places I went didn’t even have personal gun ownership.
There will be order shortly though. Through warlords similar to Somalia IMO.
It’s kinda like the prison system. There’s order there but not just from the guards and rules. There’s an underlying system that’s required to keep from chaos. No one makes money in chaos.
Look at the PNW what’s was that called Chaz or something? They had short chaos followed by an order and a leader. Rapes and extortion were the norm but that didn’t mean there wasn’t order.