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James Mitchner 1 year, 6 months ago.
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November 29, 2018 at 3:40 am #5482
Interestingly in several conversations with friends and former coworkers, it appears that several of my group are moving backwards at a surprising pace.
Several of us are considering dumping the plastic pistols entirely, one already has. Another is considering switching to wheelguns for EDC. Another is looking at .380/9mmMak size guns with a threaded muzzle for EDC or perhaps even a mouse gun.
The reasoning by each is valid.
The revolver option is considered by one as his travels take him places where his CCW is not valid and anything over 10 rounds is banned. He refuses to not take “something” with him, he has needed a pistol before. He is probably going to go with a 4″ .357 Smith as the hotel room/rental car option and a .38 Smith air weight as his EDC. His work takes him all over the place and in temperatures that are not friendly to anything but deep (pocket) concealment.
The next gent sold all his plastic pistols and kept a 1911 and Sig 229 custom. Why? Because he shoots them better.
The next gent is considering downsizing his EDC to a suppressable .380 or 9mm Mak for size considerations or possibly even a .25 or .32 auto. Size and a somewhat non-permissive environment play into his choices, as well as a dislike for plastic.
Its interesting that so many of us are considering downgrading “power” and capacity for availability.
Another interesting part of this, all but one gent involved with this conversation owns and shoots a 1911 regularly, and the loner is considering buying one.
More to follow.
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November 29, 2018 at 8:25 am #5485
AnonymousAs someone who doesn’t own a gun and doesn’t want one or know much about them I’m totally floored that they have plastic guns. You mean real true honest guns made of plastic? I only thought those were kid type pop guns. I seriously know nothing about guns LOL.
How can a gun be compressible?
I’m gonna have to do a study on guns now!
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November 29, 2018 at 3:59 pm #5514
Well I would say with practice you could do amazing things with revolvers there are even 8 shot 9mm ones.
If you want to see masters in revolver look up jerry https://miculek.com/ or munden https://youtu.be/XsU5AMxvlKg
.357 cal will shoot .38 ammo in revolver
Miçulek has world records on several things see the shoot reload and shoot with revolver and tell me you could do that with no reload with an automatic at that speed. https://youtu.be/WzHG-ibZaKM 6 shot reload 6 shots in 2.99 seconds I could not even come close.
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November 30, 2018 at 9:04 am #5545
@crazy me,
They are polymer frame (injection-molded polyamide). Most, but not all, the lower or grip is of a polymer material, while the action/slide/barrel and other key functioning components are metal.
Do they actually break down as some claim? I dunno. I can say of all the polymer frame pistols and even a few rifles, I didnt see or hear of any of them failing in Afghanistan.
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November 30, 2018 at 2:00 pm #5584
To each his or her own, but if anyone really thinks that a pistol is junk or otherwise unworthy because the pistol has a polymer frame, they are seriously in error. Nothing wrong with a revolver if thats your ‘cup of tea’. I have one on right now… a Ruger SP101 .357mag w/3″ barrel. It shoots wonderful. I had a smith install a front blade night sight to replace the stock front blade. I habitually carry it in a leather ‘pancake’ holster when out and about around the place. But it wouldn’t be my choice as a CCW piece. Its stainless steel and a bit heavy. Its only five rounds. It would be difficult to conceal wearing anything but a cover garment and in an OWB holster. For concealed carry I prefer smaller and lighter, and with more rounds. I really don’t like going below a 9mm, but I do carry a .380 on occasion. All that usually means a polymer framed pistol like a Glock or the new Sig P365 snuggled away in an AIWB holster. Its great to have so many choices to fit individual preferences.
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November 30, 2018 at 11:30 pm #5610
Namelus, back when I qualified quarterly, I would take a 4″ .41 Magnum wheelgun and shoot the auto loader qualifier, even carried it on duty one day as my primary firearm.
I certainly don’t mind just having a wheelgun but also admit a preference for something easier to tuck away in full size.
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December 1, 2018 at 12:16 pm #5634
I just read an article about the April 11, 1986 FBI Miami Shootout.
Agent McNeill was unable to reload his S&W Model 36 revolver due to the cylinder being jammed by blood and bone fragments.
Call me surprised.
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December 1, 2018 at 6:04 pm #5673
That incident was when it became apparent to LE that they were woefully underarmed in comparison to the bad guys. The next was the bank heist in LA with the two bank robbers in full armor and fully auto AKs.
I have an old S&W 36. I would hate to think I was having to go up against an opponent armed with a Mini-14 as those agents in Miami did.
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December 2, 2018 at 1:48 am #5691
That would be Agent Hanlon, he ended up using his backup gun because he lost his primary handgun in the crash.
Agent McNeill was shot in the neck and temporarily paralyzed.
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December 2, 2018 at 7:28 am #5695
They are thinking of reviving the old rising block concept , for people with little , to no experience with firearms , Target market is women , to cary in their purse . Like a revolver , but with a much slimmer profile . The rising block is strictly meant for a point blank , idiot proof , firearm .
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December 4, 2018 at 8:01 am #5850
Now what could go wrong with giving anyone having little or no experience with firearms ANY firearm to carry around? Maybe next some company could market a car for people with little or no driving experience!
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December 3, 2018 at 11:06 pm #5837
Tolik,
Got an example of this?
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