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Crow Bar 3 months, 3 weeks ago.
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Newb here but not new to the concept. I spent most of my 61 yrs camping and hunting and general “surviving”. I’m 5th gen Hillbilly, a group of folks who lived off the land and had to make do with what they could. They had to survive and exist and make anything they had, by hand. My ancestors were Vikings, survivors, who were mostly farmers (contrary to popular belief). I was a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout and then USMC for 8 yrs. We now live on our homestead and we barter with a network of likeminded homesteaders in 100 sq miles ( 10 miles X 10 miles) of farmland, sandwiched between 2 rivers.
I have my own ideas about surviving. Most of what I’ve seen on the internet is bogus. First: Camping is camping and surviving is surviving. Camping is NOT surviving. Alot of folks seem to think that in a SHTF, they’re gonna go out into the wilderness and “survive”. Not gonna happen. For one, if YOU have to go out into the woods, most likely, so will others. Food will fade fast. What will end up is alot of folks dying and then folks preying on each other. IMO, surviving is making all the right decisions, ALL the time. One wrong decision can be fatal. A series of wrong decisions is most likely fatal. The best way to avoid making the wrong decisions to be 110% in touch with reality.
For instance, planning to go out into the woods and “surviving” is a wrong decision. Thinking you’ll go out and find food long term is the wrong decision. Look at our ancestors, the survivors kept and grew their own food.
Thinking that you’ll have a BOL to go-to is a wrong decision. Consider this: If you know where it is, so do everyone who lives around there. and then so does everyone who follows you and then everyone who sees you ( or folks) come and go. I’d bet that in a SHTF, there’s 80% chance that if you had a BOL and was finally able to go to it ( most likely slim chance), someone else is already there and you’ll have to fight them to get it. Another: Thinking that you will survive as an island. No one will survive as an island. History is full of folks who thought that and failed. Look up the concept of a siege. It’s the easiest to starve, burn, flood, etc someone who has barricaded themselves in a structure. Look at the “War between the States”, the North won by attrition. They literally starved the south out of all supplies, so it can happen to a whole region.
Another: Using guns, to do everything.- Bad decision. The reality is, if folks hear a gunshot, they’re going to investigate and make sure the shooter is not a mad dog killer ( and if not, why such an idiot would consider guns in a SHTF). In a SHTF, Silence is golden- I’m using all the silent ways to “get things done”. I’m being the gray man, out of sight (and sound), out of mind.
Another: Waiting until the SHTF to begin “surviving”. Not gonna happen. it takes years of trial and error to work out the bugs of living off the grid. I mean every little thing. For instance, most think they’ll throw some chickens and rabbits and live happily ever after. We thought that and lost our 1st effort. Turns out if you don’t let the females pick the males they breed with, they’ll sit down and not eat or drink and die. Go figure. We had 30 meat rabbits and lost them all overnight. Couldn’t figure it out at first. Then discovered the problem: The water bottles. You have to mark them and give the same water bottle to the same rabbit every time. If you don’t and mix them up and one gets sick, it’ll spread like wildfire. Then even if you get it all figured out, know this: EVERYTHING wants your livestock. If you want to eat it, so do they.
You need to be doing what you’re gonna do- NOW.
Anyway, enough for now, I hope I haven’t offended anyone BTW, I have vids on YT on more of this: CCHGN
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Hello and welcome to the forum.. You are so right about what you are saying. Interesting about the rabbits. Never heard of having to give the same water bottles to each rabbit. I raised two rabbits many years ago. Long haired white angora rabbits. They were pets not for eating. We never had a problem and had one large water bottle for both. Though we ended up having to give them away to someone that raised that type of rabbit when we moved back to where we are now. That was well over 45 years ago. At my age now, I don’t plan on living off Grid. I will stay put if I can and do what I need to survive. Though hoping it won’t come to that.
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Welcome!
Most of what you have said is well know to most here.
Many of us are already doing in the here and now when it comes to various skill sets, be it gardening, raising livestock, wood working, homesteading skills etc.
Never had that issue with my rabbits. But cleanliness is common practice around here. Contary to popular belief, when SHTF it is not going to be MZBs that get you, but sanitation, clean potable water that kills the most.
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