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November 26, 2020 at 6:53 pm #31088
Anonymous
While deer hunting we managed to get in a little night vision shooting with both rifle and handgun.
My cheap china stuff ain’t nothing compared to my army days and my civilian class laser isn’t as good but we managed to find the steel and hear the pings. -
November 27, 2020 at 9:00 am #31096
Crow Bar
KeymasterWould like to get NV, but cannot afford it right now.
While GI NV is pretty good, the limited field of view of some commercial NV I would be wary of.-
November 27, 2020 at 9:45 am #31099
Anonymous
There are definitely differences. I got 2 sets of this china stuff 2 years ago for $600 with mounts.
I’m not out night man hunting night stalker mode. It’s mainly guard duty and critter removal so it’s acceptable.
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November 27, 2020 at 11:06 am #31102
Crow Bar
KeymasterYeah, I know more than a few guys who think their NVG (cheap) will make them into mad SEAL Team Six warriors.
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November 27, 2020 at 11:59 am #31103
Anonymous
Lol thus our session which definitely showed otherwise. “Where’d the laser go?” “I lost my dot!” “Why am I not hearing a ping?” hearing a helmet drop and “the batteries fell out” and my beloved air farce buddy saying “now what am I doing?”
It was more like Abbot and Costello in all drag and no speed with the local raccoons laughing than ST6 SF Rangers Raiders high speed low drag
but that’s why we did it. Get through the curve and learn
I was pleased that the IR laser sight in was on. I used a small mirror attached to my shed at 50yds. One held the rifle and the other made adjustments. When the laser hit the mirror it would disappear.
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May 15, 2021 at 9:57 pm #36696
Anonymous
Things have calmed down, cough cough, so now is a good time to do a function check on it and check batteries.
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May 16, 2021 at 2:13 am #36698
namelus
ParticipantMoving at night with nv quietly is a tough skill to master…
To increase your defense you can add ir lighting to illuminate defensive zones for cheap nv as they will pick up source but the beam strength is pitiful.
Also having an attacking force blinded as the picture tube shuts off on nv to save your eyes/tube because of unseen illumination you set off has some psychological effects.
I dont know if this is true but I have heard some of the nv by china and Russia the radiation from picture tube can cause brain cancer if you spend alot of time with it on.
We have mixed nv and thermal in groups for faster I’d of positions. It’s not cheap for a good thermal.
Using celume sticks in ir to trail mark for night practice. Firing a spread of ir celume sticks with a spud gun to illuminate a night operation area has distinct advantages.
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May 16, 2021 at 5:30 pm #36710
Tolik
ParticipantBiggest problem with any of that ……….is the price .
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May 16, 2021 at 6:08 pm #36712
Anonymous
Few years ago I got 2 sets and helmet mounts for $1K from China. Yeah I know China but whatya gonna do?
The lR laser was $250
That’s as cheap as it gets. Its not cheap but …
They have monoculars and binoculars even at Walmart that are $1-200. Those at least allow you to see.
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May 16, 2021 at 7:02 pm #36713
namelus
ParticipantForce multipliers come at cost, if you think it will save your life is there too much to spend?
This includes skills.
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August 6, 2021 at 8:41 am #39151
Anonymous
This hit the market last night. I think it’ll be a decent Illuminator at a very reasonable price.
https://www.olightstore.com/odin-ir-tactical-light.htmlYou don’t have to be a Ranger6DRaider to appreciate or utilize NV. Getting a leg up on a coon in the coop to save your food or quietly thunk a unauthorized pea patch harvester and simultaneously get more meat in your stores can make it worth it.
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September 9, 2021 at 8:14 am #40081
Anonymous
Food for thought
We just gave the taliban somewhere between 12-16 thousand sets of night vision. Everything from personal NODs to sighted in scopes and lasers.
Ya know those ITAR you gotta promise not to sell this item overseas because it’s a threat to national security whenever you purchase it because we will prosecute you for even thinking on it. But hey at Traitor Joe’s Surplus everything must go including laws
So now we no longer “own the night”
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September 9, 2021 at 12:13 pm #40094
BarrensHomey
ParticipantAny recommendations for fixed IR iluminators for home security installs? My old camcorder has a free, workable IR setting, it’d be handy for viewing without expensive hardware – if I can get some IR lighting on approaches.
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September 9, 2021 at 12:30 pm #40095
Anonymous
It’s going to depend on the budget and mounting options but something like this might work
https://www.nightvisionguys.com/ir450-b1
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September 9, 2021 at 8:06 pm #40104
John Park
ParticipantSo I’m just going to admit my utter ignorance.
I’m wondering if anyone can explain night vision to me a bit. It seems there are illuminating lasers (IR?)? But they can also give away your position IF your opponent has night vision capability?
Are there forms that don’t require lasers?
Can those other forms work with iron sights on a carbine or handgun?
Will night vision work with something like tritium night sights or does the glow of the sights ruin your capacity?
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September 10, 2021 at 6:00 pm #40124
Anonymous
The IR lasers and illuminators are just like the lights in your weapons as in you don’t walk around with them on all the time.
20yrs ago we got away, when “we owned the night”, with it but those days are dead especially with this debacle of giving tens of thousands to our enemies and with everyone here gearing up for a fight.
Operators used to maneuver with IR strobes but again that tactic is outdated. Strobes are for medical emergencies and extraction only now.
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September 9, 2021 at 9:07 pm #40105
Anonymous
It seems there are illuminating lasers (IR?)? But they can also give away your position IF your opponent has night vision capability? YES
Are there forms that don’t require lasers? Some red dots have a night vision setting so you can see the dot
Can those other forms work with iron sights on a carbine or handgun? Not really because something will be way outta focus
Will night vision work with something like tritium night sights or does the glow of the sights ruin your capacity?
You can see them but when it’s dark dark it is too bright
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September 10, 2021 at 11:51 am #40115
Anonymous
Take a few minutes and watch this
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September 10, 2021 at 7:51 pm #40128
Anonymous
Here is a cheap investment for sentries on LP/OP
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April 15, 2022 at 8:21 am #49151
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