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December 6, 2018 at 2:08 pm #5977Crow BarKeymaster
We were taught this in the Marines, but not necessarily as just for combat, but it can apply in other applications, like life.
There are a few other assessment cycles that can be added, but I dont want to confuse the issue.
December 6, 2018 at 2:49 pm #5986Anonymous
The ooda-loop was invented by John Boyd, a former fighter pilot. His biography is fascinating!
December 7, 2018 at 7:31 am #6017WhirlibirdParticipant
The easiest way to illustrate the OODA loop is to explain it in relation to driving.
And people do that without thinking about it eventually.
December 7, 2018 at 9:18 am #6019James MitchnerParticipant
The Fire Service uses much the same progression in moving from observation to action except it isn’t referred to as the OODA loop. Its more informal and formal decision making. If you had been to dozens of fires in structures of the same type construction then you know how the fire will behave and can move from orientation straight to action. Fires in the old Queen Ann type construction where no fire stops were used, allowing a basement fire to communicate straight up to the attic by traveling up inside the non-fire stopped walls would be an example. A more complicated structure would require more diligence and formal decision making (Decide) to identify the best course of action.
April 8, 2019 at 10:46 pm #13437ephemeralParticipant
Thanks Crow Bar, interesting subject matter. It is not new, but it is helpful that people understand these things.
Something to consider, if the enemy understands your culture, how you think, how you value things, he can anticipate how you will react utilizing the ooda-loop strategy, and thereby set an effective trap.
I have observed how law enforcement reacts to various situations, with little variation, and patterns of behavior emerge as to law enforcement culture, how they think, react, the hierarchy of value to them. I could imagine someone so inclined could attempt a much more exacting study with evil intent, and easily create deadly traps in given scenarios. I would think that military leaders should inform themselves, as much as possible, concerning the possible opponent’s culture, in all its aspects, for just this reason.
The ooda-loop is useful to understand, as a beginning.
April 9, 2019 at 8:56 am #13492Crow BarKeymaster
I would think that military leaders should inform themselves, as much as possible, concerning the possible opponent’s culture, in all its aspects, for just this reason.
Or the smart ones who listen to the 2 shop do.
September 6, 2020 at 6:00 pm #29849madwolfParticipant
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
Sun Tzu,The Art of War
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