Optics vs Irons

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  • #30016

    Whirlibird
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    Ok, iron sights are great.
    Simple, generally rugged and good enough for most purposes.

    Having said that, why would I put an optic on a serious use firearm? Simple, but there are several reasons.

    First, speed. It’s much faster to just put the dot on what you need to hit, using a red dot sight or illuminated reticle scope.

    Second, once you hit a certain age its so much easier to make hits with an optic, especially at distance. I can make hits to 100y with irons but can easily equal the group size out past 250 with even a simple optic.

    Nowadays most “professionals” use a variety of different optics for exactly these reasons.
    Are they a must? That’s up to you.

    Personally I am certainly returning to thinking that a handgun is a great place for an optic. Years ago, I had run a red dot on a race gun for fun and some competition. It certainly sped up my shooting and improved my accuracy not just up close but made hits at 100y easy.
    A couple of custom pistols that I recently worked on both had red dots installed. And bluntly, the difference between running them ‘naked’ versus with the optics was truly night and day. I was able to make hits so much faster, even at 15′, my groups were actually groups which is unusual considering the speed.

    Check out the modern optics, they might work for you.

     

  • #30023

    John Park
    Participant

    Great info. As a rather basic hunter, I’ve been a peep sight fan for years, but lately I’ve been thinking about just what you said. I don’t have any experience with red dots but would love to get your opinion on brands. I’m a “simple & rugged” fan, as opposed to lots of options, bells, whistles, adjustments, etc. Any suggestions?

    Also, I’d love to hear folks opinions on scopes under, say $300? I’m thinking about one for a bolt action I have, and don’t need to shoot past 300 yards here in the woods, but good Lord , scopes are pricey!

  • #30026

    Crow Bar
    Keymaster

    As handgun optics have become more rugged, I could see the use for them.
    But, have to find a holster to fit a optic mounted handgun. Something non-drop leg or tacticool.
    Also, older handguns may or may not be able to be drilled and tapped for mounting of a optic.

    @john, yeah, scopes can be $$$$.
    A few years ago, I went with a fix power, non-Illuminated Reticle, SWFA scope for about $250.
    I found I do like 90% of my shooting at max power, so why pay for the variable magnification?
    I think I have used the illuminated reticle once at close range, at a rat. In the tacticool world, maybe. Hunting, if I have to use a illuminated reticle, I probably should not be taking the shot.

  • #30029

    Whirlibird
    Participant

    So the Primary Arms and Swampfox low power variables are worth a look. The Burris and Primary Arms  fixed power prism red dots (3x) are well worth the money.

    The Sig Romeo’s are one of the best value red dots, as are the Primary Arms models. The Vortex Strikefire is also good. Also the Holosuns.

    The illuminated reticle is a favorite, because if you don’t have a battery, you still have the black dot in the center to work with, at least on my chosen models.

    Having used them a lot at night for various reasons, the illuminated dot is my favorite for long guns.

    Up close and personal, a straight red dot is great, and I have been using a Cycvis (Amazon) with no magnification for over a year now and have been extremely impressed.

  • #30031

    Casper Ship
    Participant

    Yeah. Optics are becoming so popular (and profitable for manufacturers) that I just heard Trijicon is about to introduce a new line of ACOGs designed for Deringers.

    • #30036

      Crow Bar
      Keymaster

      Trijicon is about to introduce a new line of ACOGs designed for Deringers.

      LOL! Too funny!

  • #30086

    Whirlibird
    Participant

    Deringer or Derringer?

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