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Tolik 1 year, 7 months ago.
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As some may know, in the United States, ANTIFA is getting some attention in the media for it’s protests. Some speculate the US is in a “cold” civil war that may turn violent.
So far it seems ANTIFA are more active in democratic states, seemingly on the coastal states more so than the “inner” states.
My question is: if something “pops off” somewhere like California, Oregon, or Washington (or any of it’s Eastern sister states) are the predominantly “red” states going to be affected similarly?
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I don’t think we know exactly how far democrats in elected positions are willing to push the boundaries. If the left loses more ground after the midterm elections then we will find out their intentions.
The base can go crazy in the streets rioting and it won’t make much impact unless it is coordinated in several big cities. At a that time if major Democratic figures throw in support with civil disobedience, then we have a crisis.
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Avoiding the political aspects of the situation, I think that it will be more area/location based problems than ‘states’.
What I mean is, if Salt Lake burns, it doesn’t matter who in all reality caused it. but the potential influx of travelers, hostile or not.
Now the agitators preceding the masses, ginning up support and firing up the ignorant with rhetoric and actions, inciting problems as they go.
LA burns, I’d be more concerned about Miami, Atlanta and the like. Already hotbeds of problems rather than neighboring states.
Antifa and groups that are similar tend to grow and gain support until the smackdown happens, then the pawns lose interest in the face of real risk and the agitators find another cause.
Looking at the communist revolutionary types from a hundred years ago gives a good reference for their actions. While the technology has changed, people haven’t.
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I think it’s a thing that could spread, particularly in university towns. A lot of students have thrown in with Antifa, believing that they are actually fighting fascism. I agree with 74 that if the politicians get behind them things will get even uglier.
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Daisy,
The politicians have already been backing the crooks.
Eric Holder, Hillary, Mad Maxine Waters, Pelosi, have all given their backing to the unruly, excusing and ignoring their actions.At the moment I am more concerned that the wrong person may be injured, causing someone with nothing to lose to go ‘off the rails’s.
A lone individual with nothing to lose declares war on Antifa and their backers, what could happen is as dramatic as the backlash will be.
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It’s probably a good dose of normalcy bias, but I don’t see ANTIFA as posing a threat outside of a few particularly radicalized locations. We live within 30 miles of a large university in the midwest. I’ve monitored protest activity for the past few years at the closest university and at about a half a dozen others within one or two hours of us. When ANTIFA adjacent protests have popped up the turn out has been dismal to the point that the Resist crowd and such have basically given up.
Our bigger concern is in teacher lead protests happening within public high schools here. The school administration lets the kids go home early if they participate in protesting the police.
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Whirlybird,
We all recognize that the Dem leadership supports antifa (& blm + others). To date antifa has not engaged in a major act of civil disobedience. The street protests have created minimal damage.If they start a riot, burn city blocks or shoot opposition and then Democrats back them; it will be the Fort Sumter event.
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Be mindful of the fact that a radicalized leftist has already attempted mass-murder of Republican congressmen on a ball field in Virginia. Envelopes of a white powdery substance, at least one of which was identified as the toxic poison ricin, has been received through the USPS at the Pentagon and conservative official’s offices. Republican election headquarters in at least two locations have been vandalized. Republican appointees and elected officials, and their wives, have been accosted inside restaurants, airports, and similar public places. Hollyweird “celebrities” have publicly advocated assassination of a sitting president, advocated violence against his supporters, as well as advocating unconstitutional violent actions to facilitate a constitutionally elected president’s removal from office…. echoed by elected Democrats. Antifa/BLM are NOT protestors. They are domestic terrorists who show up enmasse to shut down the constitutional rights of others through intimidation and violence. To date these sorts of activities by the left have only occurred in Democrat-Controlled cities where the city’s administration have been either complacent or complicit. I have yet to hear a single Democrat in any position of authority, elected or otherwise, to denounce these violent, anti-American, groups or their activities. This is a communist-inspired insurrection. Why do I say communist? Just look at the flags these groups carry into battle on our city streets! Some say they are the Left’s Brownshirts. I disagree. I don’t believe the Brownshirts have made their appearance yet. In 1930s Germany, communist anarchists were doing much the same as antifa/BLM until the public got sick of the violence and disruption. It was the Brownshirts that put a stop to it…. which lead to the ascendancy of another tyrant, Adolph Hitler!
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To the OP, good question.
How invasive has the antifa ideology permeated not only the universities but our public schools as well?
I live in a very Red area, as is most of the Up State. And I was shocked to learn a friend, college educated (side note, that could explain a lot), and has bought into the socialistic dogma hook, line and sinker. He honestly believes the college debt he chose to go into, he is owed something.
Thing is, despite their recent objection to be called a mob, that is exactly what they are: Mob mentality.
Could this thing spin out of control, the mob feeding into itself? I dunno. Seems there are those out there pushing for it. Throw in the idea of free stuff, and there are a lot of people out there who will buy into it. -
I have been watching these groups for some time. As many have pointed out the Dem’s already support Antifa, BLM, and other radical groups. They are ALL currently working toward one common goal Destroy anyone and everything that is not Progressive. If they can find a leader that will bring them all together then the danger they pose increases exponentially. They just need the spark to unite them.
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Here is the thing , Antifa hates the cops , but ironically , thats the only reason they are still alive . If it were the 1800’s , the people would have wiped them out already . There would be a lot of dead weight on the hanging trees .
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