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November 5, 2021 at 10:40 am #41921Anonymous
There are many things we can do to prepare our normal soft target homes and businesses for societal decay. Many areas of the world have experienced these things to greater degrees.
The Terrible Triplet I’d like to hear what y’all do in South Africa that could assist others. I’d also like to hear anything anyone else has done providing it doesn’t hurt your OPSEC.
November 5, 2021 at 11:06 am #41926
Hi Matt, off the top of my head …
Living in SA, we have safe areas, and not so safe … and we have squatter camps right next to affluent areas.
How it works, the criminals target an affluent suburb, in a stolen car, 3-4-5 of them, well organised. When it gets too “hot” for them, they move to the next suburb, and so on, till they are caught. Few months later, another gang starts.
- Home and Business alarms linked to Armed Response companies
- Burglar bars and security gates are standard, the good ones that is.
- Electric fencing
- High walls, some with spikes on top, spikes are area dependant
- Obviously remote controlled gates and garage doors
- Creation of Neighbourhood Watches that interface with the SA Police
- Outside security lights … obviously. But with Loadshedding, you need a solution to keep the lights on.
- Perimeter activated security, know when someone is on your property BEFORE they get to any window or door.
- Internet-connected Security Cameras also quite widely used
- Neighbourhood number plate recognition camera’s, paid for by members in the neighbourhood, run by the Neighbourhood Watch, who also patrols 24/7/365
- Laminated window glass that can take a literal hammering, need a sparkplug to break the glass, same as with car windows
- Reinforced room to hide the family in … see below about cell towers batteries
What also works in SA: Put up a sign warning of dangerous snakes that or on the property or in the house. No jokes, it works.
- Burglar bars can be removed/opened using a car jack, very quietly. BIL woke up with a burglar standing in his room after they removed the Spanish Burglar bars with a car jack.
- Electric fencing, use a blanket to climb over – was taught that in the SA Army
- Security gates, use a crowbar to force them open – takes +-10 seconds for experienced guys to remove any security gate. 2 minutes inside the house, gone before any security company can respond.
- High walls, on refuse day, or if bins are forgotten outside, use them to climb over, or park a car close or bring a ladder, take one from a neighbour
- Problem with high walls, no one can see inside that there is a problem read more “security” for the thieves
- Walls with spikes, use a thick blanket to climb over – taught that in the SA Army, same with razor wire, use a very thick blanket.
- Remotes can be ”copied” if criminals are committed when you opening-closing garage doors and/or gates using a remote
- They also jam vehicle alarms, you think the car is locked, when it is not.
- Also, a thing, the people that work in our houses, cleaning or garden, when they go home they are targetted, threatened, to give access/information or alarm codes. Their lives vs ours …
- Unfortunately, guns and rifles cause more drama than saving lives, as most owners are not ”stress trained” to use weapons under extreme circumstances, as what happens when you are in a deep sleep, next moment you have armed robbers in your house shooting with everyone shouting and screaming, running around.
Know this, it is heavily dependant on the level of the criminal you face. Example: Cell towers have batteries and they are being stolen like no tomorrow. Criminals use heavy-duty handheld tools to break through the thickest metal doors, or make a hole in the thick reinforced concrete slab of the walls/roof, to get to them. Why do I mention this, a committed burglar WILL get in no matter what one does. So choose your battles wisely, as a reinforced room has little chance if they are committed, have the time to act.
Ps. They even steal railway tracks in broad daylight for scrap metal … remove the braces of those high voltage electricity pylons … cash in Transit heists where they use explosives to blow the vans open.
Conclusion: You need to think like a criminal, get advice from experts, even ask criminals what they would do, and do the best you can to mitigate the risks and hope that is enough for them to lose interest, move to the next house. It has been reported that it takes about +-130 house burglaries before a criminal is caught, so they are ”well trained”.
The biggest problem I see, including farm murders, is that most people, who know all of this, think it will never happen to them … till it does.
Good News: SA is gatvol of all of this, no matter who you are. Racisms in SA is at its lowest in 25 years, we are standing together more and more without Gov help, the KZN riots having shown politicians they are on terms, recent elections showing the same, as the communities stood together, bugger SANDF/Police presence IF they were there.
But, SA Criminals are getting damn good, very fast, and becoming well ”trained” … and some really dumb ones too. Luckily Zuma is gone, ANC is losing votes and the courts and Police are slowly getting back up to speed, ever so slowly but ever so surely.
Bottom line: Don’t take criminals for fools, they can be as clever, or even more clever than we think we are, and keep in mind, they may have less to lose, or are really desperate … or are just making good money.
One has NO idea what it is like, how one will react, till it has happened to you.
November 5, 2021 at 11:21 am #41928
One more idea … put up security/camera surveillance boards on your house, even if you don’t have the funds to actually install such … it does also help a bit.
November 5, 2021 at 11:31 am #41930Anonymous
Perfect I appreciate the input.
I’ll admit we’ve got it good in comparison here. A fence that gives me a defined border and 3 1/2 screws on doors and hinges is about as far as many go. Cameras are ok for intell gathering but haven’t deterred a single thing around here nor do motion lights anymore. The lights are still good to positively ID targets or not.
It’s interesting about them stealing the batteries because I’ve got a mental list of all the bridge solar panels and batteries that send back signal to ODOT about freezing conditions etc. as well as those speed signs that flash. I’d only do it post SHTF though
November 5, 2021 at 2:46 pm #41933
Idea is to be warned by an alarm in your bedroom that someone is on the property.
Cameras with the right software to eliminate false alarms, like Blueiris.
Motion detection outside lights, the same thing, can connect some to an alarm when light is triggered.
Then you use the cameras, being infrared, to see what is potting.
No need to show oneself … till you absolutely have to.
Have had an idea once to get super cool speakers outside … as I see a problem coming, play Rammstein or some such very VERY loudly … all about intimidation to avert confrontation at all costs.
November 5, 2021 at 2:51 pm #41934Anonymous
99 Luft Ballons
😂 that’ll worry them 🤣
November 5, 2021 at 3:37 pm #41937namelusParticipant
Having laser pen lights that track like 20 of them scare the crap out of most people because they thing its attached to a gun.
November 22, 2021 at 4:51 pm #42298
November 23, 2021 at 7:22 am #42300John ParkParticipant
This is great info. Thank you.
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