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The real take a-way:
de-militarize the police, prohibit the Pentagon from distributing military weapons to domestic police agencies, train the police in de-escalation techniques, stop insulating police officers from charges of misconduct and wrongdoing, and require police to take precautionary steps before engaging in violence in the presence of young people.
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100%. agreed .
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Pretty grim list there.
A lot of this comes down to hysteria in the training classroom.
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And a lot of what they printed there was taken out of context. But hey, when we put it in the context of terrorizing people and traumatizing children, who’s going to disagree.
That just put the nail in the coffin for Zerohedge as far as I am concerned. No more reputable than CNN.
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Well whirlibird
When everyweek there are things cops do to un armed old handi capped hand cuffed and wrong person that the rest of us would ho to jail for and nothing happens to the fat boue line there is a problem. Like companies police cant police themselves so its going to get ugly.
Things that defy comprehension, logic and border on sheer stupidity. A badge does not grant extra rights and privaleges. Its broken and need a fix bad because if is does not then it will become us vs them and the blue side like the red coats have a day of reckoning coming, the argumemt its only a few bad ones.. too many incidents every week for that to be true, and its not msm reporting it.
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@WB,
While that could be said, the flash bang into the baby’s crib is accurate.
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And how about the DHS rife targets of kids , women , and elderly , to desensitize the shooters of personal ethics , or humane standards .? Speaking of women , it seems like US cops are overly trigger happy , it also seems like the women will reach for their gun faster than the men will . Probably from understanding they are physically inferior . Just sayin .
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Another proud policing moment a 220 lb man attacking a 12 year old special need Child using the stop resisting mantra, lies about what happened and the cherry on top he gets to quit job and escape charges. That is why policING has such a shitty name and record. And why it continues because good cops do nothing. He was school cop the regular police should have had him up on assualt charges and in jail like any other person.h
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This is what’s wrong with policing today and sadly I can keep posting this shit every fucken day it’s not a few bad apples it’s a rotten crate.
Or this gem of a guy who is charged with raping little boys ad coach of a football team who just happens to be a cop as well
Cop Who Headed Up the Police Youth Football Program, Arrested for Raping Little Boys
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Actually the various targets are to get the Officers to see the threat rather than the “person “.
The little old lady looks just like everyone’s grandma, but the Joe Biden special (double barrel scattergun) in her hands will ruin your day just as certain as if it were in the hands of an MS13 member.
There is a dangerous attitude where we want to protect the old, the infirm, the children against the dangers, and that becomes dangerous when those are the ones with the weapons.
You can’t imagine the difficulty with training Officers to deal with active shooters. Its one thing when its a 45 year old biker, but put the AK in the hands of a 14yo girl, Officers and especially those with kids of their own have problems with that.
Bad things happen every day, the last couple of ambushes where bad guys just walked up to Officers in their cars and started shooting, for no reason.
Its one thing to Monday morning quarterback a situation or incident. But you have to remember that you have to look at from the Officers point of view, what did “he” know, what did “he” see?
My first night on the road, I came within mere seconds from shooting a drunk who wasn’t compliant and was making a furtive movement. He came out of the passenger side of a pickup, fast and without being instructed (felony stop), and with his right hand under his shirt as if grabbing a pistol. The only thing that saved him, his hand was open when it came out. I saw fingers.
Had he come up with anything, wallet, gun, didn’t matter, by the time I could have identified the item, he could have shot me or my training Officer.
The lady who got shot playing video games, that was bad timing. She got up and had taken her gun out and pointed it at the window. Outside the same window was an Officer who saw a woman pointing a gun in his direction. He didn’t know intent, but reacted to the threat.
Is that criminal? Who should be punished?
Anybody else remember the cap guns in the late 70’s and early 80’s? With the little red plug, inside the barrel. Somebody whips that out and points it at you, especially in the dark, what happens? It did, more than once. And the Officer gets to second guess himself (or herself) for the rest of their career. Which often is suddenly very short, because everyone sees you as a murderer, true or not.
Would you like to be tried in the court of public opinion? It happens with every incident, right or wrong.
Ferguson Missouri. Darren Wilson was tried and convinced by the media, the public and the politicians almost before the crime scene had been cleared. The fact that the “witness” lied, the evidence hadn’t been collected or analyzed yet, didn’t matter.
His career was over. The Chief of Police was ruined by the Feds, despite being right and having done the right things. His career was over also.
Cops don’t like dirty cops. They make “us” all look bad.
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Whirlibird.
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On the point of view part, I remember a shooting, I use it as an example in my CCW classes.
But an Officer shoots a bad guy, his partner is threatened with perjury charges when he didn’t corroborate the prosecutions assertion that the first Officer had shot the “victim” when the “victim” wasn’t a threat. The prosecutor kept badgering the second Officer, until another witness pointed out that the second Officer couldn’t even see the “victim” from where he was.
Then there’s the “lying”. Having played back more than a few recordings of my own early situations, I would have sworn on a stack of bibles that I had said “X”. When in all reality, what I actually got out was unintelligible, sounding more like Gabby Johnson and his authentic frontier gibberish from Blazing Saddles.
Watching videos from other incidents, and having heard some of my coworkers, you hear the high pitched voices, almost pre-teen female from some of the biggest and baddest dudes when it hits the fan.
Are all cops good, honest and trustworthy? Sad to say but no. But the majority are. And “we” do try to weed the bad ones out.
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FYI, here’s a video of a bad cop.
And the guy posting it? An Ex-Cop.
His breakdowns of shootings and incidents are extremely good and worth the time.
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All I can say is what on earth is this country coming to. I don’t think it will be good for any of us. Seems we have to many crooked cops and they are not getting screened nor the proper training that is needed to not make the mistakes they make. And of course we can’t forget this is a sue happy country these days and sometimes I wonder if some things that are happening isn’t a setup for law suits. Easy money and a police officers career ruined.
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Some obvious solutions . Get rid of the money in the system . Get rid of for profit prisons , that alone will cure a great deal of problems at all levels . You take the money out of incarceration , you automatically get rid of the need for so much LE , you will also see an end to petty laws , if putting people in jail is a total burden to the state . Get rid of property forfeiture , its nothing but unconstitutional theft , nothing less than theft . That automatically weeds out one section of bad LE . Civilian review boards . Mandatory body cams . No more no knock warrants . Any botched raids at the wrong place , or any that result in a shooting , both the people who did it investigated , and the person that sent them automatically charged with 2nd degree murder . Any convictions , the guilty must receive the same sentence as a civilian , and put into the general population in prison , no protection . Sink or swim , like the rest of us . In other words , JUSTICE . Something we have not had in this country for a long time .
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Add to that they can be responsible for civil lawsuits against them personally if gross misconduct. Just like rest of us.
No civil asset forfeiture, no giving a slice to fed agency yo by pass local courts to prohibitively expensive federal courts and different seizure rules.
No quiting to avoid punishment and moving to another area doing law enforcement.
Conflict resolution and de escalation become prevalent trsining not policing for profit seminars
Not allowing savings from jail budget to go to sherrif running the jail.
No more using prison labor to make profit for companies. No unicor where only senator, congress men and high prison officials can but stock which uses prison labor on government contracts against regular companies and pocket the difference of paying prisoners under $2a day slavery alive and well.
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