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April 5, 2021 at 11:50 am #35466
Anonymous
The Russians Are Reportedly Using “120-Caliber Mortars” And “Hand-Held Anti-Tank Grenade Launchers” To Bombard Ukrainian Positions
I’m not sure were that puts us. This administration has remained silent and the media refuses to cover it
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April 5, 2021 at 12:46 pm #35468
Crow Bar
KeymasterThis was about the best specific coverage I could find on it.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/546346-pentagon-on-alert-as-russia-steps-up-saber-rattling-in-eastern-europe-andThings might get interesting for the Biden/Harris admin.
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April 5, 2021 at 2:30 pm #35474
namelus
Participanthttps://www.rt.com/russia/520127-ukraine-donbass-open-war/
There was also a blurb somewhere a few days ago that Ukraine troops where being targeted by grenade and heavy machine guns….
More likely fight wlli start is Syria over the usa pirating of oil field belonging to syria….no way they can dislodge the russians to get at Crimean oil…
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April 6, 2021 at 1:29 am #35479
Tolik
ParticipantI would say ” mind our own business ” Not our problem . Why are the Dems like John McCain ? wanting to get envolved in ANYTHING they can ? Compensating for something ?
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April 7, 2021 at 1:59 pm #35510
Crow Bar
KeymasterAnd, how does this admin respond?
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April 7, 2021 at 2:09 pm #35512
Anonymous
IMO
They will respond as they have in the past. They will have limited military action with no end in sight while making millions. This administration isn’t new by any means.
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April 10, 2021 at 5:30 pm #35747
Anonymous
Russian submarine armed with Poseidon nuclear drones to be deployed in the Pacific | American Partisan
https://www.americanpartisan.org/2021/04/russian-submarine-armed-with-poseidon-nuclear-drones-to-be-deployed-in-the-pacific/-
April 11, 2021 at 8:43 am #35756
Tolik
ParticipantMost everything they do nowadays , is defensive in nature . The Federation is not like the USSR . Even in Syria , they assisted just enough to get the situation under control for Asad . Then pulled out just as fast . Another reason NATO should be dissolved , its no longer needed . They are not the Soviet Union , they cant afford to get involved in anything long and protracted , or costly in manpower and materials . They have a population crisis , they simply dont have the resources for a major conflict with another super power . At least the Russian stuff works , the Chinese cant say that , they have to rely on overrunning the place with expendables ……….IF they can even get there , They cant even get to Taiwan .
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April 13, 2021 at 11:11 am #35804
Anonymous
UAWire – Russian cities prepare for mass burials as Kremlin amasses troops on Ukrainian borders
“NATO troops in the next few months will hold exercises in Ukraine, the scenario of which will be “to repel a large-scale offensive of the armed forces of the hypothetical aggressor country,” the Ukrainian General Staff said.”
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April 13, 2021 at 12:09 pm #35805
Anonymous
Joe Biden Invites Vladimir Putin for Meeting to ‘Discuss Full Range of Issues Facing US and Russia’ – Sputnik International https://sputniknews.com/us/202104131082619888-joe-biden-proposes-meeting-with-vladimir-putin/
weird cause I thought meeting and talking to them was bad in the Dems eyes.
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April 13, 2021 at 12:37 pm #35807
Crow Bar
KeymasterAfter 4 years of the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! they have to look tough on Russia.
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April 13, 2021 at 5:41 pm #35819
Tolik
ParticipantEither way , they wont be getting the Crimea back .
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April 18, 2021 at 8:12 am #35933
Anonymous
I definitely agree on that. That port is just too important to them.
It’s a little odd to me that with all that’s amassed there that all that is happening is lobbing artillery and motors at one another.
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April 20, 2021 at 11:34 am #36024
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April 22, 2021 at 9:41 am #36081
Crow Bar
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April 22, 2021 at 11:41 am #36088
Anonymous
!?! Real or more fake Kommie news?
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April 22, 2021 at 5:12 pm #36100
BarrensHomey
ParticipantCrying Wolf, perhaps? Or maybe demonstrating ZioUSA won’t really come to the mat? Sorry, Angela, we thought they’d stop in Kiev…OTOH maybe the troop movement was just too expensive and Putin decided to pull them back before they ran out of borscht.
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April 22, 2021 at 5:26 pm #36101
BarrensHomey
ParticipantMeanwhile, what about that failed assassination attempt a few days back of Lukaschenko,!the leader of Belarus? Supposedly a combined Belarus KGB / Russian FSB operation caught the perps red-handed, with CIA fingerprints all over it. After the failed Maduro coup last year, our 3 letter agencies appear as inept as their executive branch bosses.
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April 22, 2021 at 5:49 pm #36102
Tolik
ParticipantProbably more inept , look at how they totally botched getting Snowden . They pick on the little countries , but when they knew he was given asylum in Russia , they knew he couldnt be touched . Funny thing was they were trying to locate him in the Moscow airport , and couldnt . I guess they forgot all about those tunnels put in during the Stalin era , to move top officials around . From what I understand , he is very comfortable .
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April 24, 2021 at 8:50 am #36153
Anonymous
Interesting viewpoint and following commentary that shows the seriousness of the cracks in patriotism due to factors such as progressive agendas and perpetual war. It shows lack of faith in military leadership as well as servicemen, women, it’s and whatever’s due to incompetence, lack of standards and enforcement.
The “Behind Every Blade of Grass” only works if you believe in what you fight for and are willing to fight for it.
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April 24, 2021 at 11:14 am #36170
Crow Bar
KeymasterI doubt most Americans can find the Ukraine on a map.
I would not want to be a part of this new ‘woke’ military. If I were giving advice to a military aged youth, I would recommend a trade school.
Not even college, with all this woke indoctrination going on.
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April 24, 2021 at 10:18 am #36160
Tolik
ParticipantFollow the money , America doesnt fight for honor anymore .
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January 24, 2022 at 10:31 am #45709
Crow Bar
KeymasterNATO Puts Forces On Standby, Deploys More Jets & Ships – Russia Responds With 20 Warships In Baltic
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-puts-forces-standby-deploys-more-jets-ships-russia-responds-20-warships-baltic -
January 24, 2022 at 3:17 pm #45715
Anonymous
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January 24, 2022 at 4:18 pm #45716
Anonymous
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January 24, 2022 at 4:34 pm #45717
Tolik
ParticipantHe is right , time to get our nose OUT of everybody’s a$$ . Time to stop being ok , with overseas interference . Espesially when we cant even take care of our own house .
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January 24, 2022 at 6:36 pm #45720
Anonymous
Yup
Unfortunately now nato is throwing ground troops in and if they are attacked we will be dragged in no matter what. The big question is WHY?
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January 25, 2022 at 10:29 am #45737
Crow Bar
KeymasterTolik,
I agree with you completely.
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January 24, 2022 at 8:10 pm #45722
Olivia Green
ParticipantIt makes such a great distraction.
Don’t look at our country..
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January 25, 2022 at 6:45 pm #45760
Anonymous
Ole king poopy pants says Russia 100K is the largest invasion since WW2. That weird cause I remember 300K in the gulf we had before we went in.
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January 26, 2022 at 10:07 am #45786
Crow Bar
KeymasterIs Ukraine A Distraction From Biden’s Terrible Approval Rating?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chart-day-ukraine-distraction-bidens-terrible-approval-ratingDoes anyone actually believe his approval numbers would go up, if we get into a war with Russia?
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January 26, 2022 at 10:20 am #45791
Anonymous
Uh no. We got no dog in that fight
King Alzheimer’s has no business in anyones business
If they are that worried bout border sovereignty then take care of ours
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January 26, 2022 at 4:16 pm #45810
Tolik
ParticipantAll we will do , is piddle dick around . Talk some crap . Going hot for us with a REAL power , will be a rude awakening ………….which it wont go hot . Personally , I would put my money on the Germans actually doing something . European problem , let them handle it . Time to dissolve NATO . They have recovered from WW2 , very nicely . Time for the kids to go their own way . Look at NATO as a job well done , but time for it to be done . We need them , more than they need us , at this point .
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January 26, 2022 at 6:17 pm #45817
Loving Life
ParticipantOk. I disagree with some of the above.
The last few months have been chess moves. The Biden Administration has missed so many opportunities to diffuse the Russian/Ukraine situation. Let’s be clear no one fears the Biden Administration. After the Afghanistan debacle, no one trusts the US either. The only force that might stand up is the various surrounding European countries (part of NATO).
Putin is wiley and understands just how much he can get away with without major repercussions. The question is whether Germany and others can box Putin into not making a move.
If Putin moves, he will want his forces to do so before the ground thaws in mid to late March (difficult for heavy artillery and tanks). Putin probably also won’t make a move before or during the Olympics.
Here’s my addition. If Russia moves on Ukraine, then China wmay very likely move on Taiwan at the same time.
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January 27, 2022 at 12:14 pm #45856
Crow Bar
KeymasterLoving Life,
I disagree with the no one fears the Biden Admin.
I think with their cratering polling numbers, they are getting desperate enough they just might do something incredibly stupid if it were to get their numbers up.Concerning Taiwan, I agree. I think China will make a move on China before Biden is out of office.
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January 27, 2022 at 2:13 pm #45871
Loving Life
ParticipantI should have been specific in my comment that “no one fears the Biden Administration”. More specifically per the context above as in this Russia/Ukraine situation, Putin has well positioned himself and taken advantage of the current situation. Putin certainly doesn’t fear the Biden Administration. Putin has been playing the long game.
While the US has been wasting time on impeachment, political divisiveness, etc; Putin used his time differently, rebuilding the Soviet Union under the nose of a feckless and distracted West. Because Russia hasn’t annexed breakaway republics, many underestimate how successful Putin’s reassembly of the USSR has been.
Putin’s goal appears to be re-establishing ultimate control while leaving subordinate rulers in place. It’s working. In 2020; he reasserted Russian control over the South Caucasus by ending the Azerbaijani-Armenian war on his terms. Last spring, Putin kept Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in power. Recently Putin established himself as the supreme arbiter of Kazakhstan, providing the political and military assistance that allowed President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev to crush a revolt. In most of the former Soviet Union today, Putin decides who rules. Of the 15 constituent republics of the old Soviet Union, only five (the three Baltic states, Moldova and Ukraine) have held him at arm’s length. Georgia clings precariously to the shreds of a once-robust independence; the US botched withdrawal from Afghanistan leaves countries like Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan more dependent on Moscow than ever.
Meanwhile, the West overall is less well positioned to withstand Russian pressure on Ukraine. Europe’s doubts about American commitment and wisdom are greater than they were then. German pacifism is more deeply entrenched. Brexit has undermined relations among Europe’s chief military powers. Europe’s dependency on Russian oil and natural gas leaves the West as vulnerable as ever to energy blackmail—and sharply limits the West’s ability to impose economic sanctions on a partner without which it can neither heat its homes nor run its factories. Putin also knows that economic sanctions will fall more heavily on Europe than on the U.S., deepening the fractures in an alliance he hopes to destroy. With oil prices almost $100 a barrel and China backing his play, Putin may be less vulnerable to economic sanctions than the Biden Administration hopes.
So no, I don’t think Putin fears the Biden Administration in the Russia/Ukraine situation.
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January 26, 2022 at 6:23 pm #45818
Anonymous
“If Russia moves on Ukraine, then China wmay very likely move on Taiwan at the same time.”
Ding ding ding winner winner chicken dinner
king cognitive can’t think about what’s for lunch much less two front fighting
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January 26, 2022 at 6:38 pm #45819
Loving Life
ParticipantAs for Tolik’s discussion regarding NATO, I can see that some agree with the Biden Administration’s to burn our allies as they have no use nor respect for any other country, especially allies.
It’s funny how soon we forget that the US counted on those same allies in our recent GWOT. The Biden Administration burned many allies with their unilateral, unannounced, counter to CENTCOM plans. It appears that Tolik and the Biden Administration want to go for total burn, making the US participation in any treaty worthless.
Or is the Biden Administration plan a new world order where our new allies are truly China and Russia with the US being a paid off lacky? A new world order with 3 world power authoritarian governments?
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January 27, 2022 at 4:47 am #45835
Tolik
ParticipantObligation for conflict , is a BAD treaty to perpetuate . The Soviet Union is DEAD .( the entire reason for NATO ) . Germany by itelf is capable of dealing with the Federation . They no longer need that treaty , exsept to save money , because we are stupid enough to continue to foot the bill . Enough . It was a success , but time to move on . China , and its biological weapon attacks are a bigger issue .
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January 27, 2022 at 1:24 pm #45869
Loving Life
ParticipantI disagree with Tolik’s argument for several reasons, including:
1) the US needs allies;
2) NATO has proven effective in stabilizing the European continent; and
3) the abandonment of all security cooperation/treaties would be disasterous.The US simply needs allies. I agree with Winston Churchill that “there is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them.” The greatest single advantage the U.S. has on the global stage is our network of allies, partners and friends. That network is under deliberate pressure: from China, with its “One Belt, One Road” competitive strategy, and from Russia, with its relentless attacks on coalition unity. A strong NATO means not only having allies in a fight, should it come to that, but also a powerful deterrent to the aggression of ambitious adversaries.
NATO has stabilized the European continent. NATO’s greatest accomplishment is not even its unblemished record of deterring attack against its members but rather the fact that no alliance nation has ever attacked another. NATO’s most fundamental deliverable has been peace among Europe’s major powers for over 70 years after two millennia of unhesitating slaughter on the continent. Many think that NATO stopped the Bosnian conflict from errupting into a World War. Without NATO, what stops Putin from continuing incursions of the former Soviet States and then onto other European countries?
The abandonment of all security agreements as “obligation for conflict is a BAD treaty” would have disasteruous ramifications. The majority of US military bases overseas (Japan, Europe, Korea, Japan, etc) would cease as these bases are tied to cooperation agreements/treaties. I could go on as to how these moves would cripple US interests. The US would be simply standing on its own.
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January 27, 2022 at 4:26 pm #45879
Tolik
ParticipantI had no idea it was our lot in life , or our forefathers intention that we be the world policeman , enough !
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January 27, 2022 at 5:16 pm #45888
Loving Life
ParticipantI do not agree with the US being the “world policeman”; but that is different than your argument that the “Obligation for conflict, is a BAD treaty to perpetuate” therefore the US should repudiate all cooperation agreements/treaties such as NATO.
As per my other posts, Putin is playing the long game. Putin would love to see the US withdraw from NATO and all similar agreements/treaties this ending the US as a world power. You seem to agree and appear to be happy that the US would no longer have a military presence across the world. Interesting argument. Unchecked, how long would it take for China and/or Russia to take military action against the US?
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January 28, 2022 at 4:57 am #45913
Tolik
ParticipantWe have been so programed that the Russians are the bad guy . Well congratulations , for being successfully propagandized . We need to stop eating as much Bull$hit as they can feed us . They have had a population crisis going on for a long time . They dont have the ability for a long drawn out conflict . They dont have the human resources . Germany by itelf could deal with them . You get Germany , France , and other EU peeps , the Federation will lose . Chess game , they know we have weak leadership , and that is half of warfare , understanding your enemies leaders . But really , we need to shake our programming , because it makes us easily manipulated . Our government is dirtier than they are . We create a problem then bungle tring to fix it . Remember Saddam ? We made him everything he was . Good thing is , we will soon collapse , and not have the ability to interfere as much . All the while China gets away with most anything …………………….why ? Russia is not the REAL problem . Its in Asia .
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January 28, 2022 at 7:19 am #45916
Anonymous
Kommies are the bad guys. It don’t make us the good guys though. Russia can eat it and I’ll always hate them
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January 27, 2022 at 12:56 pm #45866
Anonymous
most folks know we ain’t doing right.
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January 27, 2022 at 4:41 pm #45882
BarrensHomey
ParticipantThe Russkies are ratcheting down their rhetoric, maybe they didn’t like the increasing probability of going all the way to nukes. Or maybe it’s maskirovka in action. They’re playing the long game, knowing time is on their side. Or not on their side. Either could be correct.
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January 28, 2022 at 11:22 am #45931
Anonymous
The country “about to be invaded” disagrees with President Biden and the phone call did not go well. Now the WH is trying to cover it up
POTUS needs to butt out
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January 28, 2022 at 5:15 pm #45950
Tolik
ParticipantHere is an angle we have’t thought of . IF we wanted to screw up Russia , we could do it by ALLOWING them Ukraine . Say we let them have it , it would be like giving them a long term curse . It would be giving them a similar situation , that the Israelis have , with any territory they take . The people in the area dont want them there , and will forever be shooting , and bombing the occupiers . They will be forever fighting rebels . Taking casualties , and spending A LOT of money dealing with it .
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January 29, 2022 at 10:20 am #45980
BarrensHomey
ParticipantThere you go. They’re trying to suck Russia into another Afghanistan conflict to drain away their remaining military clout. After the Ukies have all been blown up, Russia will have expended its best war fighting resources, and have no say in the next stage: Globocap and CCP pulling a Poland style invasion, China rolling all the way to the Urals to meet NATO forces moving east. Of course the Foggy Bottom Boys will be happy to call it a day, but may be surprised when PLA keeps going all the way to the Atlantic. PTB probably already know this but won’t tell us. Why ruin the surprise?
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January 29, 2022 at 12:42 pm #45990
Tolik
ParticipantThat was has been the case for a long time now . During the 80’s the Soviets did a study about war with China . They came up with this : Even if they launched every nuke they had , the Chinese would still be in Moscow within 6 months . Another way WE are somewhat protected by geography . Asia , and Europe are not that lucky . We are talking about a country , that could lose over half their population , and consider it a blessing . High casualties are not a threat . It makes dealing with them difficult . On top of that , you have that Asian mentality , that human life has very little value . Another fun aspect to have to deal with . Ask any veteran that had to fight the Koreans , Japanese , or Vietnamese . Not a good time .
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February 24, 2022 at 7:13 am #46951
Anonymous
Let the distraction begin and the fuel prices rise
now let’s see if the presidency is so bad off they figure out how to drag us into WW3 or if Russia has just pulled all those punk cards cause sickle corn pop was a bad dude
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February 24, 2022 at 8:05 am #46952
Loving Life
ParticipantDiplomatic fail.
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February 24, 2022 at 9:13 am #46953
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February 24, 2022 at 10:28 am #46964
Crow Bar
KeymasterUkraine Warns “Radioactive Dust” Could Spread Over Europe As Fighting Rages At Chernobyl Nuclear Plant
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putins-shock-awe-war-ukraine-unfolds-dark-day-europe-many-hundreds-killed-
February 24, 2022 at 7:10 pm #46972
Loving Life
ParticipantLet’s be clear the Chernobyl sarcophagus is in a fragile state. Active conflict on the area would catastrophic.
https://www.businessinsider.com/chernobyl-disaster-sarcophagus-construction-dismantling-2019-9
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February 24, 2022 at 10:43 am #46965
Anonymous
Sleeping with the enemy 😂
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4757640/russian-soldiers-tinder-ukraine/
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February 24, 2022 at 2:46 pm #46969
corsaire
ParticipantThe latest from a Ukranian YouTuber. She left Kiev and now is in Lviv in Western Ukraine. US and other embassies have relocated to that city also
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February 24, 2022 at 3:03 pm #46971
Loving Life
ParticipantThanks for posting. Also a good reminder on why I try to never go below 1/2 tank of fuel. Look at those petrol lines.
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February 24, 2022 at 3:00 pm #46970
Loving Life
ParticipantNext on the agenda, China will invade Taiwan.
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February 25, 2022 at 5:08 am #46995
Tolik
ParticipantIF China was capable of that , they probably would have done it by now . I think the issue is , that they have little to no experience with amphibious landings , and cant muster the kind of shipping needed to pull it off . They also know that the Taiwanese , have had decades to fortify their coastal defenses ………….which they have . They like to overrun a place , which they are very good at ……………..but you have to be connected by land to do it . Sunken ships blocking your landing areas , create quite a problem .
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February 24, 2022 at 5:22 pm #46975
Tolik
ParticipantJust listened to a rumor : The REAL reason Putin is going into Ukraine , is because Russia is running out of hookers . Putin likes hookers , and he is in there , because every 3rd girl in Ukraine, IS a hooker . ……….Just a rumor , dont know if its true .
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February 24, 2022 at 9:17 pm #46981
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February 25, 2022 at 4:58 am #46994
Tolik
ParticipantLOL , yeah , we are talking about a country , where one of their national heroes , was a NAZI sympathizer / collaborator during WW2……………………..and that doesn’t bother them . I guess they have to dig deep to make up their identity .
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February 25, 2022 at 12:48 pm #47024
Loving Life
ParticipantNot for war but some facts to think about!
For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
This is why Ukraine matters.It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population
of over 40 million – more than Poland.Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world’s reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world’s volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe’s 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world’s largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world. It’s importance isn’t so Putin like hookers.
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February 25, 2022 at 11:57 pm #47043
Olivia Green
Participantthank you very much for all the facts re: Ukraine
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February 25, 2022 at 9:57 am #47007
Crow Bar
KeymasterUkraine Citizens Urged To “Make Molotov Cocktails” Against Russian Tanks Rolling Through City Streets
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-russian-tanks-roll-through-ukraine-city-streets-citizens-urged-make-molotov -
February 25, 2022 at 10:04 am #47010
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KeymasterMap Explainer: Key Facts About Ukraine
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/map-explainer-key-facts-about-ukraine-
February 25, 2022 at 12:54 pm #47025
Loving Life
ParticipantFor those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “ This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population
of over 40 million – more than Poland.Ukraine ranks:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world’s reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)Ukraine is an important agricultural country:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world’s volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe’s 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world’s largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.
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February 25, 2022 at 3:20 pm #47030
Tolik
ParticipantBottom line is as of right now …………………nobody is willing to stick their neck out for it ………..not for all the tea in China . That pesky nuclear deterrent again , with a guy willing to use it , if it got to that point . He has committed to the action . Not to say , that it couldnt turn into a complete nightmare for him , once occupied . Like what happened to the Soviets in Afghanistan , once we started giving the rebels good equipment .
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February 25, 2022 at 1:03 pm #47026
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February 25, 2022 at 5:45 pm #47036
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February 25, 2022 at 6:41 pm #47037
Anonymous
Where’s Baghdad Bob when we need him!?! I’m bored with the narration of this
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February 26, 2022 at 9:01 am #47052
Anonymous
And there it is
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February 26, 2022 at 12:34 pm #47060
Crow Bar
KeymasterThis Is Courage in Ukraine
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/02/25/this-is-courage-in-ukraine-n527868 -
February 26, 2022 at 12:34 pm #47061
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KeymasterRumors spread of heroic Ukrainian ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ fighter pilot downing 6 Russian jets
https://adnamerica.com/en/ukraine/rumors-spread-heroic-ukrainian-ghost-kyiv-fighter-pilot-downing-6-russian-jets -
February 26, 2022 at 8:21 pm #47077
Anonymous
1:37 mark
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February 27, 2022 at 6:30 am #47092
Tolik
ParticipantVolksturm ………………………….never a good sign . Has anybody wondered if this is part of a bigger picture , yet unknown . What I mean by that is , Is taking Ukraine part of a bigger plan set in motion by the leaders of BRICS ? First , China lets loose a bio weapon , then Russia goes into Ukraine . Is this a cog in the bigger plan to restructure the worlds economic power base , in their favor ?
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February 27, 2022 at 7:14 am #47096
Anonymous
There is a good lesson on this invasion for those into preparedness. LOGISTICS
Many spend too much time on guns, gear and trying to be a RangerSealMarsocSF which is fine IF the rest of your house is in order. You need to be able to fight but they’ve run outta gas and food on day two. They have no comms with one another. Whole columns are just heading to a city with no real idea of the goal or actual coordinates. Anyone on your team must be able to know it by heart where your meeting and what channels you’ll use.
There seems to be a lack of identifiers. The first wave of Russians had a Z but that message wasn’t received for others. The Ukrainians have a yellow band on some. If you get holed up and others in your group arrive how will you ID them? It might be night/foggy/rainy etc. you’ll be scared and have an itchy trigger finger. What’s your identifier? (Don’t actually answer)
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February 27, 2022 at 7:26 am #47097
Tolik
ParticipantCant be true . Our government and media have been pumping Russia up as the biggest , baddest , bogey man in the world , to be feared . It cant all be a lie lol . Been saying that for a long time now , the bear is not to be taken lightly , but not to be feared either . Germany by itself could hold them at bay . The ghost of the Soviet Union is just that ……..a ghost . The fact that they are having difficulty , should speak volumes about the lies we have been told about their abilities . Kind of like the rude awakening the British had in the Falklands war . Yes they won , but they didnt have an easy time of it ……………the glory days of the Empire are long over .
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February 27, 2022 at 11:30 am #47106
Crow Bar
KeymasterWell said about logistics.
Some reporting I have seen is that Putin expected a quick, war, done and over in 24-48 hours, march into Kyiv with no resistance, install a puppet government.
So they did not plan on a longer conflict, reflecting in their supply chain woes.
One report stated if the Ukraine’s can hold out for 10 days, the Russian will fail under its own weight.
Also, seems the morale of the Russians was never all that gun ho about a fight. Some of them may even still have family in the Ukraine.
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February 27, 2022 at 3:51 pm #47111
Loving Life
ParticipantMatt. Well said about logistics. I agree that too many get focused on the shiny objects of weapons, etc. It’s about having a well developed all around plan. You need the basics of food, fuel, medical, etc.
This morning a friend called me about trying to get an additional certain rifle for hunting. I reminded her that she had an all around good arsenal then I asked — what about food stores and basics. I suggested putting the money elsewhere in a pantry, freeze dried foods, medical supplies, communication devices, more ammo etc. Unfortunately, these basics are just not as sexy as a new hunting rifle.
Also, supplies are great but you need the plan and practice. A couple years ago or so, Daisy did a challenge on using your skills. I may have been the only one that spent a last minute adventure night outside. Giving myself 30 minutes to grab and go, I hiked down to a family lean-to and spent the night. Let’s just say it was an adventure. Remember that nothing ever goes strictly to plan. 😂
As for the Russians, don’t underestimate them; but Putin over extended and got greedy. If they had just did an incursion for the eastern part of Ukraine, they would have been fine.
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February 27, 2022 at 7:58 am #47099
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February 27, 2022 at 8:03 am #47100
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February 28, 2022 at 12:24 pm #47122
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February 28, 2022 at 9:56 pm #47140
Anonymous
So along with all the other lies let’s look at the Ukrainian supermodel post
Y’all are all experts from different backgrounds constantly telling me I’ve got the wrong guns. Tell me what’s wrong with this one.
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March 4, 2022 at 7:02 am #47260
Anonymous
<h1 class=”headline”>NY politician holds gun drive as Ukraine citizens take up arms against Russian invaders</h1>
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-gun-drive-ukraine-russia-warhow about NO
they’ll do anything to take your guns
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March 4, 2022 at 10:15 am #47265
BarrensHomey
ParticipantLost my airsoft in a boating accident…
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March 11, 2022 at 12:10 pm #47548
Anonymous
Ahh the closet door opens enough for a sneak peek as to not only money funneling but bio weapons that we ain’t supposed to be doing
“The Importance of Ukraine” is coming to light
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March 12, 2022 at 8:26 am #47589
Tolik
ParticipantI predict it will be over , sooner than we expect . The modern Russian army is no longer the fearsome Soviet steamroller . They have already run out of steam . Now that they are bogged down , they are done . Just a matter of time now . Like the US military , the modern Russian military doesn’t do static warfare very well , They can afford it far less than we can . I predict , that in less than 6 months , they will either be out , or fall back to the Donetsk / Luhansk region . Either way , they are no longer capable of taking Ukraine . Either way , Putins international credibility , and threat is going to be gone . Another reason NATO needs to be dissolved , it did its job , but the threat is no longer valid . They would be in full retreat if they had attacked a country like Germany .
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March 12, 2022 at 9:10 am #47591
Anonymous
Static Warfare
Combat is dynamic. Occupations are static. Warfare isn’t supposed to be static. That’s why everyone drops panties at operators. They come in fight and leave after accomplishing the mission. Regulars have to stay and deal with the junk and politics.
Until the mindsets of politicians change and they quit making money on war the regular troops should be taught occupation. The reason they don’t is because The People won’t tolerate the thought beforehand though they put up with it.
During my 20 we never failed at the military mission. The politics failed.
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March 12, 2022 at 11:59 am #47607
Tolik
ParticipantUnfortunately politics and war are the same . One cant exist without the other . Good thing for all concerned , many of our enemies had messed up internal politics that led them to lose wars. Nazi Germany was a good example .
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March 12, 2022 at 10:27 am #47598
Whirlibird
ParticipantSomething isn’t right here.
The high tech, the specialized troops, the speed.
Send your troops and tanks in a slow moving 40 mile long column.
Send the conscripts, with minimal rations. Send in your Chechen mercenaries to attempt the dirty work.
Why a partial media blackout, from the target, and your own country?
Something about this stinks worse than the load in Joe’s diaper.
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March 27, 2022 at 11:21 am #48402
Tolik
ParticipantI’m thinking your right . I still think this debacle is part of a greater insidious plan , set up to restructure the world economic system . Have to break a few eggs , to make an omelet . Disrupt the world with a pandemic . Then Putin takes the hit to distract everybody for the next phase of the plan . Now what the next phase is , and by which BRICS member country its initiated by , is unknown . Keep an eye on Brazil , Russia , India , China , and South Africa . Something messed up will be tracked down to one or more of those countries .
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March 21, 2022 at 7:46 am #48072
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March 21, 2022 at 11:39 am #48087
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KeymasterZelensky Says WWIII Assured If Negotiations With Russia Break Down
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-says-wwiii-assured-if-negotiations-putin-break-downNot better.
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March 26, 2022 at 9:31 pm #48377
Anonymous
Ahh those “poor refugees” that claim to be 60yrs old instead of the FAMs they are
https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1507483552182583296
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March 30, 2022 at 7:54 pm #48566
Anonymous
How bad is it when Russia can’t even lay mines right?
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April 9, 2022 at 8:11 am #48922
Tolik
ParticipantYup , take a good look , because thats US in thirty years , or less , at current level of decline and competence . All the fancy toys in the world , do no good if the people playing with them , are not up to par . Or the guy that is showing them how to use the toy , doesnt know what he’s doing either .
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April 9, 2022 at 8:37 am #48923
Tolik
ParticipantStrange thing about the Russian military , historically , they have either been VERY good , and reasonably well led , or they have been REAL bad , and very poorly led ……………………seems like no in between , either they are one or the other . Look at the winter war of ’39 , by all rights , the Soviets should have taken the place easily , but the Finns showed them their weaknesses , they didnt know they had . after the forced restructure of the German invasion , they got their act together for the continuation war . They didnt count on the Ukrainians offering that degree of resistance that they did . That , and they dont have the force to use the tactics that served them so well in the late war ………………which is surround , and bypass strong points , to be taken later . They dont have the numbers for that anymore . Again , take a good look , thats going to be us , sooner , rather than later .
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